On 2001-06-13 09:55, CastleBravo wrote:
Jaydee,
Too bad you don't seem to know what you are talking about.
CB... Thanks man... It takes a BIG man to point something like this out to someone like me... I just never realized that YOU do know what I am talking about.
.400 Cor-Bon isn't way hotter than 10mm, it is merely on par with most 10mm with the lighter bullet weights. Pro Load's 135gr JHP clocks 1440 FPS. And .400 Cor-Bon is nowhere NEAR as powerful as .44 Magunum or even .41 Magnum. No .400 Cor-Bon load breaks 700 ft-lbs, while .41 Magnum factory loads get over 900 ft-lbs and .44 Magnum up to 1200. Heck, Cor-Bon's own .357 Magnum
[email protected] 1265 FPS load is on par with than their entire .400 Cor-Bon lineup!
I should have PREFACED my comments with "For Corbon Self Defense Loads, in which, DugeDog was comparing his Corbon 357 Sig 125 JHP with. Also, I should have continue to PREFACE my remarks with "From the table in the link provided", and "excluding any Handloading Data which I don't have available".
The hottest .400 Cor-Bon load is a 170gr JSP @1330 FPS/668 ft-lbs; the hottest 10mm hunting load made by Cor-Bon is a 180gr JSP @ 1320 FPS/697 ft-lbs. So much for outhitting everything short of .40 Super... :roll:
There are no .400 Cor-Bon loads, or load data for handloading those loads, beyond 170gr bullets. OTOH, 10mm factory ammo goes up to 200 grains and 220gr bullets and load data are available. CCI/Speer, Cor-Bon, Federal, Georgia Arms, Hornady, Pro Load, Remington/UMC, Triton and Wincester all make 10mm ammo. .400 Cor-Bon ammo is made by... uh... Cor-Bon?
Absolutely, but then, Comparing Apples with Oranges seems silly, so using a 357 Sig Corbon Factory Load, and comparing it to another Corbon Factory Load provides a better Delta with which to compare.
Honestly, I don't think that Corbon makes the best or hottest load, but then, I wasn't comparing loads from other manufactures. Someone had suggested the 400 Corbon, which I have had an interest in playing with, but haven't yet, and the ONLY real way to compare Apples with Apples is to use one Corbon load against another, AND DugeDog HAD mentioned HIS 357 Sig Corbon load!
I will admit that it was late, and my head wasn't entirely clear when I posted. I probably shouldn't have even mentioned the 40 Super in my post, as getting into the Triton's is an entirely different comparison, and definately, a different beast, BUT THAT SAID, Dugedog had asked about how the 400 Corbon compared with the 40/45 Super, and the 357 Sig & 10mm.
I think that Triton's offerings are much better than Corbon's, but then, it depends on the load, and the style, AND the intended PURPOSE, and execution.
IMHO, I don't think that the 45 Super is a practical solution in his Springfield UC with the sub 4" barrel. I know I would not want to shoot it.
Of course, Corbons HUNTING loads are different from the JHP Self Defense loads, and in fact, they don't offer any comparable 357 Sig load to compare with.
Now... Of course, you are entitled to YOUR opinion, and I, mine. To BLATANTLY say that I don't know what I am talking about seems a little rude to me, but then, that is ONLY my opinion, and of course, YMMV!
Maybe you can live with this 'corrected' commented...
From the table provided (
http://www.cor-bon.com/ammo.html ), no other FACTORY offering from Corbon, in standard pistol calibers, hits as hard as the 135 gr 400 Corbon, and compares more favorably with a 44 magnum load than the 357 magnum profile the 357 Sig emulates in terms of energy.
Hope that meets with your approval.
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