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Howdy. My Wilson 1996A2 spits its first empty case from a loaded magazine 8-10 ft. away and then begins to walk the cases back towards me until the last case out of the gun drops right at my feet. I have a hunch this is magazine related as it only happens when using 1 particular Wilson magazine. Why is this happening and what do I do about it? Thanks. Brian
 

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If it's just the one mag try a new mag spring. either Wilsons or a Wolff(I believe they are the same thing). Sounds like that one is getting a little weak.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Eugene D. Goodwin on 2001-04-21 15:49 ]</font>
 

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More likely than weak mag springs is that your grip is becoming progressivly lighter each time you fire.

Simple test.
Single load each round, fire 8 times, see what happens. My bet is that they'll land much closer together, as you will be re-acquiring your grip before each shot.
(this also eliminates the possibility of the mag spring affecting ejection.)
 

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On 2001-04-21 18:31, Ken Cook wrote:
More likely than weak mag springs is that your grip is becoming progressivly lighter each time you fire.

Simple test.
Single load each round, fire 8 times, see what happens. My bet is that they'll land much closer together, as you will be re-acquiring your grip before each shot.
(this also eliminates the possibility of the mag spring affecting ejection.)
Now that you mention that, and I think about it, how much could the mag spring even affect the ejection? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to replace the magspring but probably isn't the culprit here.
 

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Hi Eugene!
It kinda threw me for a loop myself at first, but then I thought about it for a little while, and decided that if you were trying to get your brass to eject as consistently as possible, I suppose it MIGHT have an effect. (we're talking inches or a foot here.)
I personally don't see any reason to be too concerned about the ejection pattern. It would be nice when it came time to police up your brass. (Just set an upside down hat on the ground and let all the brass fall in there!):lol:

My attitude is, as long as the brass clears the pistol well, and does NOT go down the front of my shirt or ping me in the forehead, I'm happy with it. (I had a hot one lodge under the brow bar of my glasses one time, NOT fun!) Otherwise, don't sweat the small stuff, eh?
 

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Thanks guys. I was more concerned with the possibility of too weak of ejection not clearing the brass from the ejection port. This hasn't happened yet but I wanted to nip any problems in the bud. I have had a few cases bounce off of my hat brim on the last shot. Strange thing is that when my other magazine is used the brass is located in neat little piles. Sometimes double taps result in two cases lying inches apart. I just don't see how the magazine could be affecting the ejection. Does the fresh round exert upward force on the empty case during the cycling of the gun? I could see how this force might change if a mag spring was weak. I'll take the gun out tomorrow and do the recommended shooting test and report back. Brian
 

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On 2001-04-22 01:01, Frontlander wrote:
Thanks guys. I was more concerned with the possibility of too weak of ejection not clearing the brass from the ejection port. This hasn't happened yet but I wanted to nip any problems in the bud. I have had a few cases bounce off of my hat brim on the last shot. Strange thing is that when my other magazine is used the brass is located in neat little piles. Sometimes double taps result in two cases lying inches apart. I just don't see how the magazine could be affecting the ejection. Does the fresh round exert upward force on the empty case during the cycling of the gun? I could see how this force might change if a mag spring was weak. I'll take the gun out tomorrow and do the recommended shooting test and report back. Brian
Brian, I think the round under the ejecting one does have some(how much is uncertain) affect on the way it leaves the ejection port but not enough to cause major differences in the place where the brass lands I suppose as Ken mentions above. Most of my Para's(all P-14's) hit me in the head with at least one or two hot empties everytime I shoot 'em and usually in the middle of the mag(14rder) this has been attributed to "limp wristing" and sure enough a "death grip" prevents me from getting the "brass thump".

Ken, I like the upside down hat idea, maybe we can get the smiths here to work on a fix to make 1911's do that :grin:
Also I should have thought first before posting the mag spring idea, although somewhat helpful, after thinking about my Para's(apparently it's been longer than I thought since I shot them)I can definetly say your right about the grip being a major problem in the brass ejection pattern :grin:

Regards,
 
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