I am interested in purchasing a (nother) gun for self-defense. I am specifically focused on a home defense situation where ranges would be no more than 10 to 25 feet. I already own a few guns that would work fine. However, I always find that there is a compromise.
I am interested in a gun that is capable of holding preban magazines that may hold 25-30 rounds. I know there are many who would say if you can't do it with 6 rounds in a .357 magnum or 5-7 rounds in a 12 gauge then you don't know what you are doing. But, I have the frame of mind that tells me "better safe than sorry". I do practice with my guns and I intend to make every shot count, but in the event that for some reason I need more rounds I would like as many rounds as reasonably possible without having to "time out" for reload. I would consider 2-3 armed intruders in my house more than a match for 5 to 7 rounds or even "10" rounds. (Thank you politicians and liberals.) I don't think phrases like "I give" work well in these "potential" scenarios. Furthermore, I don't intend to "give" anything but bullets.
I am considering between a Special Weapons SW-45 in .45 ACP
(See: http://www.specialweaponsllc.com/firear ... index.html )
or a good quality AR-15 type .223.
I might also be interested in the H&K USC .45 ACP carbine
(See: http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/ ), if I could find out and confirm that the USC excepts hi-cap preban magazines. I have seen that the SW-45 does.
The SW-45 is a .45 caliber semiautomatic only version of the H&K MP5. Quality of the SW-45 is supposed to be on par with H&K MP5. It is my understanding that the H&K MP5 is a little better quality than the H&K USC. If anyone knows, please let me know.
I know that both the MP5 and many variations of the AR-15 are both used extensively by police and military forces for close quarters. But, they use significantly different types of ammo. The .223 is a very lightweight and very high velocity bullet. I have heard that it can over penetrate and even penetrate a victim without a significant wound chamber. I have also heard that it can be very effective because it "can" fragment very well because of the high velocities. The MP5 is typically a 9mm, but the SW-45 is a .45 caliber rifle. I have come to the conclusion that the .45 is generally considered to be more effective than the 9mm. But, how does the .45 compare to the .223? It seems to me that the .223 would definitely have an advantage over 50 yards or even more so over 100 yards. But, I am interested in close range.
My only major gripe about these types of weapons is size. (Again, thank you politicians and liberals.) It seems obvious to me that either of these guns would be much more maneuverable and not to mention easier to keep handy if they didn't require a 16" barrel or full size stocks. Obviously, the police and armed forces prefer shorter versions for these close quarters scenarios for obvious reasons. Good for them. I really am glad that they are not restricted. I just wish that politicians and liberals hadn't done so much to restrict myself and others like myself from being able to protect my family, my house and myself as "best as possible"! I don't believe that the police and / or armed forces will be there for me if an intruder breaks into my home. I am sure that when they do show up, it will be too late. Thanks anyway, I will try to defend myself.
I would appreciate any thoughts and comments regarding these different calibers and how they compare for in home self-defense.
I would also greatly appreciate any info available on the SW-45 or any .223 weapons to consider.
And any thoughts on which is best. Please include why.
Thanks,
DDW
I am interested in a gun that is capable of holding preban magazines that may hold 25-30 rounds. I know there are many who would say if you can't do it with 6 rounds in a .357 magnum or 5-7 rounds in a 12 gauge then you don't know what you are doing. But, I have the frame of mind that tells me "better safe than sorry". I do practice with my guns and I intend to make every shot count, but in the event that for some reason I need more rounds I would like as many rounds as reasonably possible without having to "time out" for reload. I would consider 2-3 armed intruders in my house more than a match for 5 to 7 rounds or even "10" rounds. (Thank you politicians and liberals.) I don't think phrases like "I give" work well in these "potential" scenarios. Furthermore, I don't intend to "give" anything but bullets.
I am considering between a Special Weapons SW-45 in .45 ACP
(See: http://www.specialweaponsllc.com/firear ... index.html )
or a good quality AR-15 type .223.
I might also be interested in the H&K USC .45 ACP carbine
(See: http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/ ), if I could find out and confirm that the USC excepts hi-cap preban magazines. I have seen that the SW-45 does.
The SW-45 is a .45 caliber semiautomatic only version of the H&K MP5. Quality of the SW-45 is supposed to be on par with H&K MP5. It is my understanding that the H&K MP5 is a little better quality than the H&K USC. If anyone knows, please let me know.
I know that both the MP5 and many variations of the AR-15 are both used extensively by police and military forces for close quarters. But, they use significantly different types of ammo. The .223 is a very lightweight and very high velocity bullet. I have heard that it can over penetrate and even penetrate a victim without a significant wound chamber. I have also heard that it can be very effective because it "can" fragment very well because of the high velocities. The MP5 is typically a 9mm, but the SW-45 is a .45 caliber rifle. I have come to the conclusion that the .45 is generally considered to be more effective than the 9mm. But, how does the .45 compare to the .223? It seems to me that the .223 would definitely have an advantage over 50 yards or even more so over 100 yards. But, I am interested in close range.
My only major gripe about these types of weapons is size. (Again, thank you politicians and liberals.) It seems obvious to me that either of these guns would be much more maneuverable and not to mention easier to keep handy if they didn't require a 16" barrel or full size stocks. Obviously, the police and armed forces prefer shorter versions for these close quarters scenarios for obvious reasons. Good for them. I really am glad that they are not restricted. I just wish that politicians and liberals hadn't done so much to restrict myself and others like myself from being able to protect my family, my house and myself as "best as possible"! I don't believe that the police and / or armed forces will be there for me if an intruder breaks into my home. I am sure that when they do show up, it will be too late. Thanks anyway, I will try to defend myself.
I would appreciate any thoughts and comments regarding these different calibers and how they compare for in home self-defense.
I would also greatly appreciate any info available on the SW-45 or any .223 weapons to consider.
And any thoughts on which is best. Please include why.
Thanks,
DDW