40 loads needed for IDPA ESP class

I like 4.2gr of WST behind a West Coast platted 180gr FP. A guy I have chatted with likes 4.0. We both shoot Glocks though.

Yes I know the hazards, I have also worked some warm loads up in the 40 Glocks, however never hot.

oops - I use WSP and a OAL of 1.125 +/- .003.

sb

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This one is great for IDPA.

155gr Rainier FP
5.2gr VV N320
brass=mixed
Winchester WSP
OAL = 1.155
PF = 150 to 155
crimp = 0.418 to .420 inch

That was my old load. I have been playing with West Coast Bullets and VV N310. I do not know how long you can load in the Para, but I am loading out to 1.180 using 155gr RNFP's. It looks Like I will settle in around 4.3 or 4.4gr's of N310. Power factor of 145. Brass, crimp, and primers same as above.

The new Laser Cast 185 grain bullet is made especially for the 1911's in 40 S&W. It will reach 900 FPS and a power factor of 166 with 4.4 grains of WST powder in a Para. The load is soft shooting and very accuarate. This is my new IDPA ESP load and will do double duty for IPSC. 1.180" OAL.

Cheap 40 S&W brass:

http://www.scharch.com

Three cents each, fully processed and just like new.

Go here for some great info.

http://home.columbus.rr.com/jmaass/ipscload.htm

Tom
AF Shooting Team

On 2001-05-15 11:40, banjobart wrote:
The new Laser Cast 185 grain bullet is made especially for the 1911's in 40 S&W. It will reach 900 FPS and a power factor of 166 with 4.4 grains of WST powder in a Para. The load is soft shooting and very accuarate. This is my new IDPA ESP load and will do double duty for IPSC. 1.180" OAL.

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.40 S&W @ 1.180" OAL?? Are you sure here? Minimum OAL=1.125 and Max.= 1.135.

1.180" is so much longer!

On 2001-07-02 16:32, Vladimir wrote:

.40 S&W @ 1.180" OAL?? Are you sure here? Minimum OAL=1.125 and Max.= 1.135.

1.180" is so much longer!

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I guess we should have said what we are loading for. My loads are for a 1911 single stack. It will not feed standard length ammo. It likes the long stuff. My IDPA load as of today for .40 S&W is:

155 RNFP from West Coast Bullets
Brass = Mixed
Primes = WSP
Powder = 4.3gr VV N310
OAL = 1.180
MV is approx. 925 to 945 fps. PF is 145.

I use 10mm mags that can easily accept the longer lengths.

A 1911 clone .40 not only CAN be "long-loaded;" it may actually prefer to be. While my P-16 feeds SAAMI-length ammo reliably, it takes 180gr loaded out to 1.200.

This also reduced the pressure in some of the hotter loads, extending case life.

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A GLOCK or other "wonder-9" pumped up to .40!!!

A good IDPA ESP load is the 180 grain Zero FMJ over 5.5 grains of VV N-340. This runs about 800 FPS, giving a power factor 150. It feels like a 22 after shooting Major Power but is still accurate and works on steel.

The same ingredients can be loaded to a power factor of 165 for IPSC, giving a velocity of about 925 FPS with 6.1 grains of the VV N-340 powder.

Bear in mind, when using the reduced power ammo for IDPA to use a 12 lb. recoil spring in the gun and use a 16 lb. recoil spring for the IPSC loads of 165 power factor.

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