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I am putting the pieces together for a .40 s&w ESP pistol. I plan to use a full size Para. Any suggestions on loads would be appreciated. Especially O.A.L. of cartridge, bullet weight & style used, primer type, powder type & charge, velocity and finished crimp diameter.
I also need a good source for 40 brass, do you know of any?

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Keith
 

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I like 4.2gr of WST behind a West Coast platted 180gr FP. A guy I have chatted with likes 4.0. We both shoot Glocks though.

:cool: Yes I know the hazards, I have also worked some warm loads up in the 40 Glocks, however never hot.

oops - I use WSP and a OAL of 1.125 +/- .003.

sb

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This one is great for IDPA.

155gr Rainier FP
5.2gr VV N320
brass=mixed
Winchester WSP
OAL = 1.155
PF = 150 to 155
crimp = 0.418 to .420 inch

That was my old load. I have been playing with West Coast Bullets and VV N310. I do not know how long you can load in the Para, but I am loading out to 1.180 using 155gr RNFP's. It looks Like I will settle in around 4.3 or 4.4gr's of N310. Power factor of 145. Brass, crimp, and primers same as above.
 

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The new Laser Cast 185 grain bullet is made especially for the 1911's in 40 S&W. It will reach 900 FPS and a power factor of 166 with 4.4 grains of WST powder in a Para. The load is soft shooting and very accuarate. This is my new IDPA ESP load and will do double duty for IPSC. 1.180" OAL.
 

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Keith, I shoot a BHP.40 in IDPA ESP. I don't reload, but a friend, Terry McClure, reloads for me. I've been amazed at the .40 load he developed, so I thought I pass along the recipe.

Brass: Mixed 40s&w
Powder: Winchester Super Field
Charge: 6.0
Bullet: Montana Gold 165FMJFP
O.A.L.: 1.125
Comments: 970 fps, SD: 09, PF: 160.05, Fired in Glock 22.
Note: Primer is Winchester Small Pistol.

This is a pretty soft-shooting, extremely accurate load. I've been extremely pleased with its performance.

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On 2001-05-15 11:40, banjobart wrote:
The new Laser Cast 185 grain bullet is made especially for the 1911's in 40 S&W. It will reach 900 FPS and a power factor of 166 with 4.4 grains of WST powder in a Para. The load is soft shooting and very accuarate. This is my new IDPA ESP load and will do double duty for IPSC. 1.180" OAL.
.40 S&W @ 1.180" OAL?? Are you sure here? Minimum OAL=1.125 and Max.= 1.135.

1.180" is so much longer!
 

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On 2001-07-02 16:32, Vladimir wrote:

.40 S&W @ 1.180" OAL?? Are you sure here? Minimum OAL=1.125 and Max.= 1.135.

1.180" is so much longer!
I guess we should have said what we are loading for. My loads are for a 1911 single stack. It will not feed standard length ammo. It likes the long stuff. My IDPA load as of today for .40 S&W is:

155 RNFP from West Coast Bullets
Brass = Mixed
Primes = WSP
Powder = 4.3gr VV N310
OAL = 1.180
MV is approx. 925 to 945 fps. PF is 145.

I use 10mm mags that can easily accept the longer lengths.
 

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A 1911 clone .40 not only CAN be "long-loaded;" it may actually prefer to be. While my P-16 feeds SAAMI-length ammo reliably, it takes 180gr loaded out to 1.200.

This also reduced the pressure in some of the hotter loads, extending case life.

DO NOT TRY THIS IN A GLOCK or other "wonder-9" pumped up to .40!!!
 

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A good IDPA ESP load is the 180 grain Zero FMJ over 5.5 grains of VV N-340. This runs about 800 FPS, giving a power factor 150. It feels like a 22 after shooting Major Power but is still accurate and works on steel.

The same ingredients can be loaded to a power factor of 165 for IPSC, giving a velocity of about 925 FPS with 6.1 grains of the VV N-340 powder.

Bear in mind, when using the reduced power ammo for IDPA to use a 12 lb. recoil spring in the gun and use a 16 lb. recoil spring for the IPSC loads of 165 power factor.

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