MattK - Like I said above, the ShadO belt slide that I have had for my .45, is identical to the Ross leather right down to the threads running for the stitches all around the leather. I bought the three Ross belt slides that I have about one year ago. When I seen them on the rack at my dealer, I jumped for joy as I thought that they were the ShadO. As I mentioned, both are of South African stock. I have tried to find out about the ShadO and cannot locate any info on it. Perhaps someone else is familiar with the old ShadO leather holsters. I only have the one. My comment as to the ShadO being the fore runnner of the Ross could be wrong, as it was a comment that I made due to an assumption on my behalf. No offense to Ross leather! Both brands are good holsters, otherwise I would not own them.