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I am. I love nice sporty cars, particularly European cars.
I'm a fan of BMW's, Porsches, and Ferraris.
Spent a good amount of time on performance parts and upgrades of my car this past year, so that's why I haven't gone shooting as much lately. Well, I'm calling it quits on the car, cause I still like guns better in the long run.
But I'll always appreciate a nice car.

Anyone else share the same interests?
 

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Yup... Most of my life :wink:

You probably remember a thread Richard had on the 1911 Forum that showed the racecar, still have it, although it's been years since the last time it was out for any tracktime.

Career, Family, other things have been more the priority, but someday soon, I'd like to get back into it.

I personally think the best production performance car is made by BMW. The M3 has been something I wanted for many years now, but I know that if I got one, it'd be a full-caged track whore, and convincing the wife to let me cut up a $35k Beemer hasn't gone very far. The M5 is even nicer, and harder to justify.

I keep telling her though that when I sell the house, I am buying a Viper GT-R, but it's still doubtful, the boss will probably Veto that one too...

Probably the biggest thing that has kept me vasilating on the issue is 'Production' vs. 'Purpose Built'. It's hard to justify dumping $35-80k into hotrodding a production car, and making it go fast, when I can spend the same money on a Spec/Sports Racer, Formula Continental/Atlantic, or even an old ARCA/Winston West or Cup car, and have a solid, purpose built car that will out-perform any production car in a comparable class...

Then, when it's all said and done, what do you do with it... Many Production cars only remain competition legal for a short time, and it's years until they qualify for 'Historics' status.

Ahhh.... Decisions, decisions...


Suppose the most fun would be to get an SCCA DSR car, and start running Regionals/Nationals. The DSR's are fast, and relatively inexpensive to operate. Guess we'll just have to see how things go :wink:
 

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Which guy isn't. Of course, these cars are even more out of reach than a Vickers full house gun. :wink: .

That said, I'd love a 360 Modena F1 thank you very much. If unavailable, I'll settle for a BMW Z8.
 

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On 2001-06-14 18:32, Mute wrote:
That said, I'd love a 360 Modena F1 thank you very much. If unavailable, I'll settle for a BMW Z8.
Uhhh... Yeah... Cough up $300k for the 360 :wink: They're not easy to come by, but I got a really up close look at one over at Ferrari of Los Gatos a couple weeks ago. I'd settle (if one could call it that) for a 355 F1 :wink:

Personally, I just haven't gotten excited about the Z8, although I am know it's nice, maybe when they do an 'M' version :grin:
 

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Uhhh... Yeah... Cough up $300k for the 360 :wink: They're not easy to come by, but I got a really up close look at one over at Ferrari of Los Gatos a couple weeks ago. I'd settle (if one could call it that) for a 355 F1 :wink:
To quote the great Bugs Bunny, "I can dream can't I?"
 
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Just put a new set of 18" three piece alloys and 280/30/18's on the M5.
The Mercedes is all fixed from the accident and now I am on the hunt for some upgrades...
And Shane, I had a Saleen SC and no at 143mph your 5.0 will give up the cost and shake at will as I pass you at 180mph and if that is not fast enough how about 215mph on my turbocharged ZX12r?

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: David DiFabio on 2001-06-14 22:40 ]</font>
 

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On 2001-06-14 22:38, David DiFabio wrote:

And Shane, I had a Saleen SC and no at 143mph your 5.0 will give up the cost and shake at will as I pass you at 180mph and if that is not fast enough how about 215mph on my turbocharged ZX12r?
OK, OK, what I meant to say is give me about 1320 feet of smooth level pavement and I'll whoop butt. What you do after 1320 feet goes by, is up to you!!!!!! :wink:
 

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5.0???

How about this one...



David... With the 3.08 gear, it's was clocked through the traps on Radar at 177 on an Open Road race, and no, it wasn't shaking, but it was sketchy :wink: 'course, there was a bit of a headwind in the Nevada desert...

Typical Roadrace gear is either the 3.73, or 3.55 depending on the course.

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Jaydee,
I know that is not the stock 5.0 under the hood at 177 with 308.1 gearing.
Even my Saleen SC with 355.1 would only hit 162mph on the flats and 13.1 in the 1/4.
 

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Oh, yeah! I dig it. I'm a German car snob, I admit it. Only have a mildly tinkerd-with VW at the moment. Did some lapping days with it (man, stock tires suck!). M3 and M5 are pretty sweet. I've always lusted after the 911, and I think the current gen 911 Turbo is awesome. If I had a bushel of cash lying around underfoot, an upgraded 944 Turbo would be pretty fun for a gorcery getter or PCA toy. I'd also like to have one of the older Audi Gruppe B rally cars.
 

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<sigh> I'm not really a go-fast guy. Never done any racing or even pushed the limit on the cars that I've owned. But if I may, I'd like to put in a plug for the car I'm currently driving, the 2000 Nissan Maxima SE. For the 2000 model year they redesigned the body style and tweaked the engine to 222hp - 0 to 60 in about 6.5 seconds. AND it gets 23 miles per gallon around town! Plenty of hip room, too, which is getting more important by the year :roll:. The SE is the Sport Edition with a much tighter suspension and steering system. Tres cool.

Even those of us stuck in suburban dad mode like a little performance now and again. It's pretty nifty to pass a truck on the highway and have the throttle respond like you're pulling a trigger.

I did get to drool over a couple of Lotus prototypes a couple of years ago when Michelin was a client, and we imported them for tire testing & review. Wow.

Dream car? The Astin-Martin Bulldog George Lazenby drove in "Her Majesty's Secret Service."

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Chad Ward on 2001-06-15 12:08 ]</font>
 

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Stock??? Sure, that's what we told the Tech Inspectors, and the lumpy idle was caused by a vacuum leak from the missing emissions equipment :wink: It was prep'd under the 89 Escort Challenge rules.

Uhmmm... Errrr... Okay, so it's had a little flow work done :grin: We 'optimized' the air pump under the hood to process a little more air, and the EEC-IV was remapped to shove a whole bunch of fuel in there... And it made power past 6800 so I suppose you could say that the cam profile was not typical... but the stroke was still around 3" although pistol dwell was, shall we say, altered (ancient chineese speed secrets) :wink:

Conservative dyno numbers exceeded 300 hp at the wheels with that motor, but no blower, or turbo was used. The motor in the car now is making close to 280 at the rear, but will live longer.

The World Class tranny also packs a .80 5th gear, so 5th pulls REALLY hard on the top end, like going from 3rd to 4th.

Poor thing has sat idle for a few years now... It really misses the 104 Octane UnoCal & VP Race gas :wink:
 

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On 2001-06-15 12:05, Chad Ward wrote:
<sigh> I'm not really a go-fast guy. Never done any racing or even pushed the limit on the cars that I've owned. But if I may, I'd like to put in a plug for the car I'm currently driving, the 2000 Nissan Maxima SE. For the 2000 model year they redesigned the body style and tweaked the engine to 222hp - 0 to 60 in about 6.5 seconds. AND it gets 23 miles per gallon around town! Plenty of hip room, too, which is getting more important by the year :roll:. The SE is the Sport Edition with a much tighter suspension and steering system. Tres cool.
Ahhhh... IIRC, that the 300 ZX family four door, nice car, even if it's a sedan :wink:
 

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On 2001-06-15 11:55, Peter Loron wrote:
Oh, yeah! I dig it. I'm a German car snob, I admit it. Only have a mildly tinkerd-with VW at the moment. Did some lapping days with it (man, stock tires suck!).
Pete... Ya gotta get some 'stickies' under that puppy... The newer Yokie's are supposed to be nice, but the GT-R always ran best with the GS-CS's, and Hoosiers.
 

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On 2001-06-15 12:23, jaydee wrote:
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On 2001-06-15 11:55, Peter Loron wrote:
Oh, yeah! I dig it. I'm a German car snob, I admit it. Only have a mildly tinkerd-with VW at the moment. Did some lapping days with it (man, stock tires suck!).
Pete... Ya gotta get some 'stickies' under that puppy... The newer Yokie's are supposed to be nice, but the GT-R always ran best with the GS-CS's, and Hoosiers.
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Yep! I long ago, after that first track session, ditched the stock Goodsmear GA's and put Yoke AVS Intermediates on it. WAY better in all respects, including rain handing (important here in the Pacific NorthWet)! One of these days I'll get a second set of rims and get some Hooters :wink: or some such DOT track tires on there.
 
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Chad,
Urban DAD Mode-LOL...I couldn't fit the kids into the Porsche turbo I wanted so I bought the M5. 22-26mpg, 400 horsepower, and room for five, sometimes maybe it is good to be the "dad".
 
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