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Howdy pistol forum :smile: Kinda disapppointed at my piece of $hit Smith and Wesson .22 (guide rod broke, sites broke, trigger stuck) and was wondering if you guys could suggest a good .22 pistol? Spending money like crazy and this would help save on shooting .45 all the time :wink:
 

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High Standard pistols. Best ones are the Supermatic series, either the citation, Trophy, or my favorite, the Victor. Look on the frame for the Hamden, Ct. mark. the good ones IMHO were the original ones out of the Hamden plant. Later, cheaper production took place in hartford, ct. STAY away from the Mitchell arms Stainless repos, and the "Texas" High Standards.

magazines are another touchy area. You will want to find the metal bottom magazines with the green follower. These are the originals and almost always feed unless some $&%$&^^% "fixed them". I too went through alot of .22s and finally found ones that had the grip angle of the 1911. Oh, they aint cheap, good used ones run $400-$500, with the collectables are in the $600+.

Or you could do what I am going to do and get a Ruger 22/45. I am going to get one for my daughter so she has a trainer for the 1911. Sucks that it needs $60 bucks worth of trigger work right out of the box. dont generally care for Ruger product for my use, but that will work for her. Good luck in you quest. be safe, DC
 

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A well-tuned High Standard is a joy to shoot, but IMHO it's not worth the trouble to find the "right" one at a decent price with working magazines. Even then you'd risk damaging the pistol if you used high velocity ammo.

For plinking, I like the Ruger Mk II or 22/45. They're accurate and durable and the triggers really aren't that bad. The Browning Buckmark is also a good pistol, but it's a little more money and the trigger mechanism is harder to tune.
 

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Go with a Ruger MK11. They are well made, accurate, reliable, inexpensive and there are alot of aftermarket parts made for them. My other choice would be a conversion unit for the 1911.
 

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I'll second the Ruger MarkII. Decent price and a good solid pistol. You might also check out a Sig Trailside. Similar price to the Ruger, and closer to a S & W 41 in design.
 

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I have 2 Ruger Mark I's, 2 High Standards and a Colt Huntsman. All good pistols but I have to rate the Colt first, followed by the High Standards and then the Rugers.
 

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Regarding the High Standard post there is a kernal of truth in it but a bunch of inaccuracies.

1. The Hamden, Ct. address only appears on the barrel, regardless of model.
2. Care checking of the serial number reveals if the frame was made in the Hamden factory era.
3. The srial number appears on the frame as welll as the slide on a matched gun.
4. The first and best magazines had the red bottom which ws an add on to the former slant grip magazines.
5. Variants such as the ones made by the Giles 45 Shop Odessa Florida command premium prices.
6. The later guns built in East HArtford and which have the serial number starting in "ML" are also excellent.
7. The current production of hand made guns are excellent.

Thanks for the input. =====> hill536
 

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Sorry for the misplaced post Peter. So the majority say the Ruger? BTW, hows the Browning .22's? Almost forgot to ask about the hamerli as well.

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Beretta also has a 22 out now also..it has a scope rib and grip angle feels similar to 1911..About the same size as the ruger mk2 and 22/45, colt cadet and the sig trailside. about $500 though..
 

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Ruger MKII's, Everybody that likes to shoot should have at least one of these! They are fine guns and are very accurate. I've hunted with mine and took deer and hogs as well as all manner of small game.
No I don't hunt with one but the opportunity has come up and this is what I had in my hand at the time, I don't recomend it but it will work.
I have 3 but my Wife claims one of these as hers!
 

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Browning BuckMark target/varmint model.I have one with the round count well over 10K always runs has an excellent adjustable trigger, optics rail(weaver type),good fit/finish and reasonable $.I have the 9.875" model with a Tasco pdp5.This is the third electronic sight this gun has worn out with nary a failure.If I had it to do over again I'd have bought the 5.5" model although the modular nature of this design allows easy barrel replacement so this change could be made.NaaaaaaaH.....I'll just buy more ammo.:smile:
 

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Although I wouldn't put it in the same class as a Model 41 or an early Hi Standard, I have been very pleased with my SIG Trailside. I have the 4.5" target model fitted with an Ultra Dot optical sight. Accuracy is excellent as is the trigger. If you want the trigger upgraded to superb, send the gun to Larry's Guns in Portland, ME. He is a magician with Hammerlis.

I don't shoot a lot of .22, but I frequently use it to warm up at the range as well as to practice basic tecnique and keep myself honest. Sometimes it's too easy to blame errant shots on my 57 year old eyes, but if I'm not keeping them in the ten ring (apologies to Jim Scouten) with the Ultra Dot, I know I'm getting sloppy 'cause it's damn sure not the gun's fault

By the way, if you do get a Trailside, Model 41 magazines actually work better in them than the SIG mags. Occasionally the S&W's require a little minor fitting, but they are metal vs plastic are considerably more reliable in most cases. YMMV

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But a .22 conversion kit for Your 1911 and have the best of both worlds.Much cheaper to shoot,probably much cheaper to purchase than a pistol that isn't really even close to the same feel.tom.
 

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I agree with Deputy Tom! It's not cheap, but the Match 22 conversion by http://www.marvelprod.com is like putting a S&W top end on your 1911 frame. There are quite a few bullseye shooters using them in three gun competition up to Camp Perry! You get a test target (average size of about 50/100 rounds at 50 yards) with your unit. Mine ran .650" (randsom rest)and will out shoot me. You can change from bomar type target sights to scope or dot. Hope this helps! :smile: Mike
 

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For your every day plinker I suggest a Ruger mk 11. I am not a fan of ruger but there are a lot of after market parts that you can always get. The ruger factory will not sell anyone critical parts you must return the gun to the factory. I do a lot of work to these mk 11 pistols, it would be fine for what you want.

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I like the Kadet conversion unit on my CZ75. Why? I have a D/A pistol that shoots both 9mm and 22 LR, it is reliable, accurate, feels good in my hand, and the cost is reasonable. Regards, Richard
 
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