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Ammoman has 9 X 18 BARNAUL MANUFACTURE JHP ammo for the MAK (Part Number #918-0080, 0090). The price seems OK but I don't know anything about this ammo.

Does anyone have experience with it? Is is decent ammo? Should I stick with brass case ammo?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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I like the Barnaul HP's. They are very reliable in both of my Circle 10 Maks. As for the brass cases, unless you plan to reload for your Mak the steel cased ammo is cheaper. I beleive I read in a book about the Makarov that is was actually designed to use steel cased ammo.

I still have a pretty good supply of Barnauls but I'll check out Ammo Man's current price anyway. Thanks and enjoy your Mak.

I will always love my 1911's in .45acp but I still feel the Makarov is the most maligned and underated pistol out there right now. 8)
 

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Midway USA has them, too. The price isn't bad and you don't have to buy a whole case.
 

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My experience with Barnaul ammo has been very good. My Bulgarian Makarok prefers the Barnaul FMJ. Every once in a while it will choke on the HP ammo. I can shoot FMJ stuff all day and it never hiccups. Ironically, I have a CZ-83 in 9X18 and it chokes on every third round of FMJ ammo. It doesn't matter if it's Wolf, Barnaul or any other brand. If I shoot Barnaul HP, it never chokes. Go figure? BTW, Dan's ammo in PA is the best source for Barnaul ammo. He ships "free" east of the Mississippi. He charges $110. for HP and $105 for the FMJ stuff delivered to your door.
 

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barnaul makes some pretty decent ammo for steel cased stuff. I've run it through my Mosin Nagant M44, and shot a fellows Mak w/ the JHP's on my last trip to the range. My M44 shot the barnaul better than the Winchester, and Sellier and Bellot I bought for it. I'm thinking in the next 2 months or so I will have to get myself one of these Makarovs, they seem like great little pistols!

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I've never been a big fan of double action autos, but I like the MAK! I have a Bulgarian Circle 10 that was bought from SOG in Ohio. They advertise it as being in excellent condition, but it was even better than that! After carefully stripping the pistol and giving it a good cleaning to remove the rust inhibitor it appears the pistol was unfired. Not a mark on it!

The first magazine I fired through it (8 rounds @ 10 yards with Federal ball ammo) cut a single ragged hole, talk about good first impressions! I've since installed a Wolff 19 lb recoil spring and the little gun feeds EVERYTHING I have put through it, and shoots it all well.

What a bargain for $129!!! My only regret is I didn't buy THREE!
 

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Well I shoot the H*ll out of this stuff. Its the cheapest and most plentiful 9x18 ammo in UT anyway. A couple of comments......

Barnaul is STEEL cased..not brass. But your mak was teethed on the stuff so shoot it and dont worry about it.

Ballistically its pretty decent also. Not quite as hot as Corbon but hotter then Hornady/Speer etc...in the JHP form. If they could only make a 109gr JHP that meets Wolfs ballistics..now we'd have a little smoker.

The CZ83 that has problems feeding is as Ironic as Ive ever heard. Ive had 3 of them, including my current CZ83 Mak. The feedramp on the last run of maks had a very prominent line where the barrel/frame meet.
If thats the case...polish the feed ramp. It solves the problem.

If you still have feeding prob's after that..then you have one of two issues. Lacquer build up or mag issues.

The chamber in my 83 Mak was very tight. With shooting alot of Lacquer coated ammo, it built up in my chamber and on my mag feed lips. The ammo literally got stuck in the chamber and in the mags on occasion. When cleaning your gun, use a very strong barrel solvent on the chamber when shooting Barnaul, Wolff etc. It will build up and you wont even see it..but it will mess up your guns reliability.

Also, CZ83 mag feed lips are very course at first and if you shoot lacquer coated ammo through them....the mag lips take longer to smooth out. Shoot brass for a while or just take apart your mags and polish the feed lips on the underside a tad. Make sure your mags are clean and parts move freely...you shouldnt have any more problems.

My CZ83's will feed empty cases like they were candy. Just a note.

Shoot well.....................
 

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I also appreciate the info

Well, I've managed to find a Makarov at Centerfire Systems for $99.00 but now can't find even FMJ 9 x 18 ammo locally for under $16.00/box! Was about to order Barnaul FMJs from Midway but didn't know how well it would function. You all have taken the worries away and I too thank you.
 

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Novak Sights

Steven, I've read your range report on ammo and am curious about your Bulgarian Makarov with the Novak sights. Who installed them please? If not Makarov.com where did you get them? Novak says that they'll only sell through Mak.com
Thanks for the help.
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Hello. I bought a new Bulgarian slide that came with them installed. It was sold via makarov.com as "The Beast" conversion a good while back, but is no longer available. I think that Makarov.com is installing sights if you send them the slide. If you prefer to have someone else do it, I'd just order the rear sight for the Browning Hi Power and appropriate front sight from Novak's or whomever has them at the best price or have the 'smith do it.

Best.
 
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