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Just picked up my bear today but... the TRS'slide does not seem to go forward each time the gun is being fired (because the safety cannot be engaged). Each time I get a misfire, I would have to push the slide forward to lock it. Each time after doing so, the gun fires the round with no problem.
Any suggestion would help me...
 

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You mean when it`s fired, it cycles, but doesn`t go fully into battery and you have to give it a bump? Does this happen on every shot? The lock up on the TRS is very tight, and mine does this if i ease the slide forward when it`s empty, but it hasn`t done it while firing it.. I figure it will become better after break-in.. -Gilmore
 

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The TRS does not go into full battery except at the first round. I get a "misfire" every 10-12 shots, although during the firing process the gun does not sit in full battery at all (because the safety cannot be engaged during the firing after the first round). When it "misfires", I have to give it a push.
I am thinking it might a combination of tighness and the gun being dirty. I hope after cleaning it tonight, it will perform well tomorrow.
Please let me know if you are having similar problems....

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 1911dude on 2001-05-04 19:33 ]</font>

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 1911dude on 2001-05-04 19:35 ]</font>
 

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Send it back...:wink:
 

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On 2001-05-04 19:29, 1911dude wrote:
The TRS does not go into full battery except at the first round. I get a "misfire" every 10-12 shots, although during the firing process the gun does not sit in full battery at all (because the safety cannot be engaged during the firing after the first round). When it "misfires", I have to give it a push.
I am thinking it might a combination of tighness and the gun being dirty. I hope after cleaning it tonight, it will perform well tomorrow.
Please let me know if you are having similar problems....

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: 1911dude on 2001-05-04 19:33 ]</font>

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I know what your talking about, but mine only fails to go into battery if i ease it forward.. If i sling shot it, it will go all the way.. You may want to try a heavier recoil spring, that might give it that extra push you need till you get it broken in.. I use a wilson 18.5 lb recoil spring in my colt`s, and i can tell the one in the TRS is lighter than that.. Ive heard proper breakin should be anywhere from 200 to 500 rounds.. After you clean it, lube the lugs and rails real good and try the heavier recoil spring.. Keep me posted.. -Gilmore
 

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You didn't mention how many rounds fired this pistol has...I agree, if you have less than 1000 rounds through it, just needs some break in...However...I, myself, could not stand to single-shoot 1000 rds. I would send it back or at least call and ask about it...That's not right...If it does it when it's hot or dirty is bad enough, but single-shot?

Come on...this is supposed to be their premiere carry pistol right? Just sounds like you have more than a break in problem...If they're all like that, seems like there would have been more said...

I think you have a problem...
 

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FWIW, Have a 4 yr. old Premier II that had a similar problem. In its case it was due to the inherent tightness of the pistol, probably the locking lugs were/are the main culprit. Did have to make the extra effort in cleanliness & lube. It was long gone by 100 rounds even with this particular gun having their 1 1/2" guarantee. It did, however, take 400-500 rounds of the equivilent of 230 gr. American Eagle Ball, etc. to get the pistol to be easily "Broken" from battery by hand. Don't hesitate to call Les or Jim. In my experience they have always been very willing to help sort things out.

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Thank you for all your responses.... I have shot 150 rounds so far (which still is within the process of breaking the gun in as I understand it). I will put another 500-600 rounds down the range. If the problem still persists, I will change the spring and then call Bear customer service.
Although I tend to agree with Gyp_c2 (after all this gun does cost a small fortune!!!) I want to use up my alternatives first.
 
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I have an SRP that was so tight when I purchased it I had to use a "serious" grip on it to pull the slide back after it locked up in full battery. It only locked up under full slide velocity.
It took a lot more than 1000 rounds to break in and I too tried the heavier spring fix, it made the gun nearly impossible to unlock. I will say this, say what you will about Les Baer but I do own his guns and he does warranty them, my SRP is the most accurate handgun I have ever fired period and even though it was that tight it has always functioned perfectly, accurately, and reliably.
Three years ago I purchased a Premier 2 used and the previous owner had done some "tinkering" to the hammer and barrel fit.
After a few weeks at Les's shop and the $15.00 cost for shipping it was returned to me with a new hammer/sear and barrel.
The test target was also inclosed, Les's pistols are often criticized for tight/frame/slide/barrel fitting by an observer or someone who does not own one, rarely from the owner.
IMO Les is one a handful of makers that could charge more for his pistols.
 

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People seem enthralled by a 1911 so tight it won't function properly out of the box. I wonder, if these people were buying a new car...and the doors wouldn't open without throwing a shoulder into them, if they would accept the salesman telling them the doors just need slammed several hundred / thousand times in order to work as intended? Guess the term "break-in" has different meanings to some.

I have nothing against Baer pistols, even owned a couple over the years, but it didn't make sense then, doesn't make sense now.

Good luck with your TRS, many people love them.
 

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Hey David...How did you get your SRP to function properly?
 

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Well, cleaned the TRS really good last night and headed back to the range this morning. I guess all it needed was just a bit of cleaning because it performed flawlessly.... Thanks guys.
 
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Gyp_c2,
If I gave the impression that the SRP did not function properly it was not intentional, the SRP has never misfunctioned, never jammed, stove piped, nothing.
It has always functioned flawlessly and I clean it after each range session and lube it with Tetra grease.

Bruce,
Actually one of the reasons I own BMW and Mercedes automobiles is because they close very securely and smoothly, no rattles, no looseness and I prefer it that way.
I have owned other makes: Aston Martin, Porsche and Ferrari and I will coninue to own BMW and Mercedes along with a really tight Les Baer.

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David. As I have said before, that is the beauty of our country. A place where we can believe as we choose, and own what we can afford so long as it is legal.

The Baer pistols I have traded my way into, and out of, were not bad pistols. I don't miss them as I do some other guns that have gone through my hands, but they were not bad pistols...after a case or two of ammo. The reason I would not buy a new one today results from a personal dealing which is irrelevant to this topic.

BMW's and Merc's, aside from depreciation and dealer repair costs, can be good vehicles, as can the others you named. Lots of image sales there as well, but, again, we live in a beautiful country and by gawd I appreciate your right to spend what you want where you want. Don't be misled though, the sqeaks and rattles have as much to do with the pavement you drive on as the dings in my trucks have to do with the rocks I drive on. :smile: Life is short, spend it like *you* want. No judgments here.
 

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Thanks for the clarification...So...the 1000 rds was enough to loosen it up...

I have to say, nothin' wrong with that, I musta' zigged when I shoulda' zagged on that one...My bad...

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hi all,

a couple of months ago i got a premier II that i've been using as my carry gun. so far have ~2000 rounds thru it with no malfunctions. i always clean it after i shoot it (usually!) and lube with wilson ultima lube grease and oil. once i was naughty and didn't clean it for a week-- then i shot an idpa match and took two training sessions at the local range where i shot 150rds each time-- ZERO malfunctions of any kind throughout. even when i first got it and i had to eat my spinach to rack the slide, it still functioned flawlessly.

my experience: wonderful gun, would definitely buy another!
 

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A local gun store has a couple of LBs in the case. I will admit that I couldn't pull the slide back until an employee showed me a trick. He smacked the muzzle with his palm to break the lock-up and then pushed the slide back with an overhand grip.

He also said never to clear the weapon using this technique. Wonder why. :roll:
 

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With a few hundred rounds through the TRS I can easily rack the slide now -- it was tough at first, for sure. This is quicker than I expected after following the buzz about this issue on the forums...

I'm waiting to strip the pistol until I have about 500 rounds through it -- this weekend hopefully! I will let you know if things change before the first cleaning.

Regards,

B-Squared
 

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...I've been avoiding the local shop t6he past few days, they had a couple or three Baers and I handled them briefly. They ARE very tight...I like the feel of them though. I just can't give in to those nasty urges to grab one and run off to the range right now! Enjoy yours!
 

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C'mon Gyp_c - you KNOW you want it. Go on, pick one up. Just touch it a LITTLE bit... you know you like it.....
 
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