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First of all, I'd like to say "Hello" and let you all know I'm new here.

Second, I've just purchased a brand-spankin new (only had 10rnds through it) BHP .40cal. God is she sweet!

I think I'm falling in love! As such, I'd like to see everyones HP's. I'm thinking of doing some customization, and just love the pics in general!

So if you've got a pic of your HP (or HP's!) then by all means please post it! Lets see your picture-takeing skills!

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Hello, Glimmerman! I cannot post pictures as I have neither the equipment nor the ability to do so. (Heck, even with the computer I'm about as talented as a monkey with a machinegun!) Hopefully, DesertDog and some others will come to your aid; I like to look at BHPs, too.

Glad you like your .40 HP. Let us know what loads it "likes" and how it groups. Let us know what features you may add, change, or delete as many of us might have done the same and can offer 1st-hand opinions or views if it's been a good modification or not in our experience.

In any event, welcome and visit often.

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Mr. Camp,

Thanks for the quick reply. I hope this board will "wake-up" a bit and become more active. I was sent this way by some folks over at GlockTalk, and I'm glad to see that there's the same friendly atmosphere around here as over there.

I'm unsure as to what I'm going to do with my BHP. The Military dosen't exactly pay me the kind of cash to make upgrades/customizations regulary, so I'll just have to see what I can do. As of now I'm just looking for pictures and different opinions on everyones HP's and the work done on them.

I hope to do a decent evaluation of my HP one of these days, alas range time is an endangered species around here, not to mention an expensive hobby. I'll post it as soon as I do though.

I haven't recieved my new baby yet, but I've
held/fondeled/drooled over my step-fathers for so long and finally found one. Price wasn't really my main concern, I could have bought one whenever but I came accross a deal from a friend of my Step-Dad and just couldn't pass it up. Another good thing in buying it from a friend is that I know it dosen't have any obvious flaws with it. Time will tell on the fireing, but I'm confident it will perform as desired.

Well all, commense with the pics!
 

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Hello, Glimmerman. I have a soft spot for servicemen and feel that if I can help the guys who protect the nation, I will do it.
I cannot help with the pictures, but have been shooting HPs for 30 years as my favorite handgun. I am not a gunsmith, but have had many HPs modified and have come to some "conclusions" that I, at least, believe. If I can be of service in this admittedly limited way, sing out.

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"Limited"??

My Step-father (the shooting influence in my pre-service days) has a saying and it goes like this: "Age and trechary beats youth and enthusiasm every time"

You can have all the schooling in the world, and be the smartest person the world has ever known, but if you don't have any experience, what good are you to the younger generations? One thing I've learned in the military is this: How its SUPPOSED to work and how it ACTUALLY works are two totally different things.

Your experience is gratefully welcomed and appreciated sir!

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Hello, Glimmerman. Over the years, with the BHP, I've come to believe that "less is more." Years ago, I used to have about everything changed on the HP that I could and my gunsmith tried to tell me that some of my ideas weren't all that hot. I wish I'd listened.

Not from a collector's view of course, I believe that today's BHPs are the best ever in terms of what you get for your money and out of the box. You get very usable fixed sights which I prefer over the far-too-high adjustable sights currently sold. The bbls in my new MkIII 9mm HPs fit better than the factory bbls in my old '71 and '74 HPs; I had BarSto bbls fitted to them to tighten up groups, but do NOT expect the HP to group as tightly as a fitted 1911. Do expect them to do about 2" at 25 yards from a rest with loads they like.

Like many HP addicts, I eventually had plain black-on-black fixed Novak sights put on a couple of my HPs with the front sight blade purposely a tad high so that I could zero by careful filing down. I got them dead on at 15 yards which is about as far as I shoot anymore at targets due to my eyesight which just ain't what it used to be! On "good" days, I'll shoot at farther distances and it's almost like the good old days. Anyway, I had the sights added and after several comparisons learned that my groups were no tighter than using the factory sights. At speed, doing "practical" drills, hits were about the same in terms of "tightness" and time. The guns do look better in my view, but in terms of a real gain, no. (Of course, there's utterly nothing wrong with a good looking pistol, either.)

I'm one of the number who do get bitten by the HP's spur hammer. If this malady afflicts you, I suggest the following:

1. Either replace the hammer with the Cylinder & Slide abbreviated "ball hammer" or,

2. Bob the existing hammer at the second lateral serration, shape it to suit you, refinish and go.

I remove the right-side (as the pistol's facing away from you) ambidextrous thumb safety lever. The way my hand fits the gun, it can accidentally engage it.

While somewhat controversial, I do routinely remove the (hideous) magazine disconnect that prevents the weapon's firing without a magazine in place. I like a pistol that CAN fire without the magazine in place if need be and this generally cleans up the trigger pull in most instances, by an estimated 10 to 15%.
Some will counsel against this and there very well be merit in their argument, but to me, such a modification to a BHP makes it no more "dangerous" than the various makes of 1911s, Beretta 92s, Taurus PT92/99s, CZ75s, Glocks, SIG-Sauers, and so forth.

I replace the factory thumbrest stocks as they're not comfortable to me. If they are for you, no problem.

In the 9mm HPs, I replace the standard factory recoil spring with a Wolff conventional 18.5lb spring to reduce possible battering and I use the shock buff for the HP available from Buffer Technology, http://www.buffertech.com in my pistols.

I realize that you're speaking of a .40 S&W HP and they have a heavier recoil spring than the nine millimeter. I might leave it the same, but I'd sure try the shok buff.

Myself and others do counsel against having the HP's front strap checkered due to its being rather thin and a checkered gun my crack in this area if dropped or even squeezed hard if the checkering's cut too deep or the particular gun has a particulary thin front strap. Stippling is OK and I personally think it looks better on the HP, but that's subjective. I currently use plain old skateboard tape and don't worry about it.

Stocks are a very subjective thing, but I like Spegel's checkered stocks, but have heard very nice comments on Ahrends and others.

One of the more useless things I had done on an old HP was to have the front of the trigger guard checkered for the then-popular finger-on-the-trigger guard hold that was all the rage. Didn't work for me and for few others I know. Save your coin on that...if it was ever even a consideration.

Numerous finishes abound, but for my use as I'm not unable to clean my pistols for extended periods of time nor use them under the most adverse of conditions, I usually opt for old-fashioned bluing.

IF you decide to go for adjustable sights, let me know and we'll go from there.

Best and good shooting.
 

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Steve -

As far as sights are concerned, I'm going to score myself a set of Trijicon Night Sights or Wilson Night Eyes. I'm very very fond of night sights.

I'm all for the stippling, but I'm unsure as to the cost (Haven't checked it out yet). I'm also thinking about getting her de-horned for carry.

What do you think about the beavertails on the HP's? I think it looks ok, and if done correctly adds to the style of the pistol. Are there any concerns with this?

Does Spegel have a website where I can view different styles/materials/colors of their stocks?? I've heard quite a bit about them, and from various pics posted here. Just curious as to their variety and price.

You know of any place that sells good mags for the .40 HP? Whats the # of rounds in them? Any Hi-caps available?

Well, this exhausts my questions for now. Thanks for helping me out :smile:

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Hello. As far as I know, Spegel does NOT have a website, but I believe his stocks are sold through C&S and likely other places as well. I think they go for around $60 a pop, depending upon wood chosen.

I don't care for the beavertails, but that's a subjective thing. I think there's a thread on this in this section. I suspect that if the mods I mentioned hadn't cured the hammer bite problem, I might have tried such a beavertail, but I'm fine as is.

I do not know of any place selling anything more than 10-rnd magazines. I THINK that some of the early, early .40 mags would hold about 11 rnds, but I could be mistaken.

As you likely know, Mec-Gar makes the Browning "factory" magazine for the forty HP.
When I had a forty, I had the two "factory" mags that came with the gun and ordered several Mec-Gars as they were cheaper than the Browning version made by the same folks and the Mec-Gars always worked fine in the nine. They did not work well. The follower is or was different. The Mec-Gar magazine had a follower like we're used to seeing in the 9mm while the Browning version's follower had kind of a skirt at the bottom of the follower. Neither Browning nor Mec-Gar would sell the followers. I said all that explain why I suggest your using Browning mags for spares. However, others that I gave the forty HP Mec-Gar mags to reported no problems at all....so it could've just been my individual pistol.

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Glimmerman, to say I am a High-Power fan is an understatement. I stumbled across this site, with absolutely no help from my former friend Stephen A. Camp (lol), and I am very impressed. I am sure this ranks as one of the best overall handgun sites on the Web. Regards, Richard
 

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Hey Glimmer,
I'm putting my project .40 together. Will try to learn how to post photos when I'm done.
The "Old age and trechery" quote was used as a class moto out at Pendelton for my 8404 class a while back. Average age of the class was 32 which is pretty high for a mil. school. (Oh! It proved out very true as well. I even took a foolish instructors $100 bucks on a bet that only a young arrogant type would make.)
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Cool, another BHP.40 fan! I've had mine for five years now and couldn't be happier with it. Right out of the box it shot great and would feed anything I cared to stuff into it. As a matter o' fact, the .40 went 10k+ rounds without a failure to feed, fire or extract. Right around 10k (I stopped counting after a while), the extractor claw chipped and had to be replaced. Luckily, Bill Laughridge from Cylinder & Slide was at a local gun show and replaced it for me (and radiused the extractor in the process). Very cool.

Modifications I've made have been for purely selfish and egotistical reasons. They were completely unneccessary, but I kind of like them:

Cylinder & Slide (C&S) sear, sear lever, extended thumb safety (non-ambi) and wide combat trigger -- along with installation by a competent gunsmith, these mods dropped the trigger weight to about 4.25lbs with a very crisp break. The wide trigger makes it feel even lighter. The C&S trigger also has no provision for the mag safety, so installing it removes this "feature."

I've also had Novak 3-dot night sights installed. I like 'em better than the factory vertical bars, and Novaks just look cool on a HP :wink:.

I had the backstrap lightly stippled in a 1"x3" strip to keep the gun from wandering when my hands get sweaty.

Um, that's about it. As for the beavertail -- ICK! :eek: It just looks out of place on a HP. If the hammer is biting you, replace it with a C&S ring hammer. Don't whore up a beautiful gun with unnecessary appendages!

For holsters, I like the Milt Sparks Executive Companion. It's one of the most comfortable IWB holsters I've ever tried. The flanges on the side distribute the weight of the gun enough that you can almost forget it's there. Range/IDPA holster is a Blade-Tech.

Oh, and replace the stock 20# recoil spring with a Wolff 22#. It'll keep your brass within walking distance. The .40 does tend to fling it pretty far. The heavier spring will also soak up a little more recoil and keep battering down. It is a bitch to rack the slide, though, until you get used to it.

As for carry loads, I finally settled on 165gr Golden Saber. Works great through my pistol, but try everything you can get your hands on. Shoot at least 200 rounds of a potential carry load to make sure that it'll feed & fire every time.

Thats about it. Enjoy your new baby.

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Hey ReconDoc - you get pics yet? Inquireing minds want to know!

Legalhack - Love that pic! I've saved it on my comp to use as future reference. Classic.

JB - Although I'm not fond of two-toned pistols (never have been) I do like those grips and hammer. What types?

Chad - you have any pics of that beauty? I'd like to see it with the holster in the pic, if you have one available.

Damn comp was flatline for a while, but she's up and running - barely. God I hope she stays good - I can't afford a new comp!

I'll catch you all later. Good to see we've gotten some new posts recently.

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Chad - you have any pics of that beauty? I'd like to see it with the holster in the pic, if you have one available.
Glimmer, I dunno if I'd call it a beauty :wink:. I forgot to mention the Bar-Sto barrel and the Navidrex thin grips. The Navidrex grips are great. They feel like they're about 1/3 the width of the original thumb-swell plastic stocks and allow me a very high grip on the HP. I like 'em a lot.

BUT almost all of the modifications are internal. Aside from the Novaks and the stocks, the BHP.40 looks pretty original. There's a lot of holster wear around the muzzle, I haven't reblued the stippling strip, the extended safety is hard chrome (the only bright part on the otherwise black gun -- looks weird) and I've attacked the slide release with a Dremel to keep it from catching on the lip of the Sparks EX. All in all, the thing's about as ugly as a bowling shoe :smile:. And I like it that way. Gives it character.

But, yep, if I can borrow the digital camera from work, I'll post a shot of the beast. Despite my best efforts, the BHP is still an elegant looking pistol.

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Glim,
Havn't gotten the pictures yet, but have the pistol about 90% complete. What a weapon. I just found a complete 9mm top end that I will finish out the same as my .40 so that I will have a two cal. set.
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Okay, you asked for shots of the beast. Remember, this is a working/competition gun, so most of the mods are internal. Sorry I didn't get a decent shot of the stippling strip on the backstrap. It's pretty cool. By the way, that's a Milt Sparks Executive Companion.





 

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ahhhhhh so very sweet.

I'm not sure what I'm attracted to most - the glitzy made-up "Full Dress" weapon...or the KISS ("Keep It Simple, Stupid" for those who aren't military) elegancy of pure simplicity "everyday wear" weapon..

Much like my women!

I like bro, I like alot!
 
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