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Can anyone tell me about the quality of these frames? Has anyone tried one out? If so, what is the good and the bad?

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Hello. Friend of mine bought the steel version for one of his Glocks--might have been a G21 but I'm not sure. In any event it's digested at least a few hundred rounds by now with no issues. Somewhat more pleasant to shoot with the added weight, but by the time it's loaded, wouldn't be a first-tier carry gun choice for me. Think it weighs a few ounces more than an all-steel 1911 as memory serves.
 

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CCF G34

I put together a CCF stainless steel frame beneath my Glock 34 set-up. Fully loaded with 18 rounds = 52.8oz, Holy Smokes!! I'll let you all know how it shoots in 9mm and with an Advantage Arms .22 conversion.

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Other than the weight, the only other complaint that I've heard about the CCF is that you have to be careful when fitting a new match barrel. If you fit the lower lock-up lug too tightly, it will case the locking block to break out of the frame, which is NOT a warranty repair.

Apparently, the locking block is actually epoxied in the frame.
 

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Well......I'd have to believe that even on a regular Glock frame, if this happened while fitting a new barrel, the result would probably be much the same.
I've only seen them advertised for the small frames. Haven't seen one yet for the large (such as the 45 or 10mm).
The advantages (as I've been told and read) are the following:
1. Added weight to help with recoil absorption.
2. Rigid frame--no flex and makes for a smooth, crisp trigger.
3. Slightly different angle on the grip which stops the "Glock bite".
Although, I've noted that the "straight" insert is available at "an extra charge".
Until I have the extra $$$ and get one in my hand, I can't say that it is the "answer" to the listed areas.
 

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I know very little about a glunk....Untill I took a glock armourer class I'd only had a glock in My hands a few times, had never fired one an it's been the same after the glock class.....Now Bolton?.....He knows glocks like few others, God only knows how many hundreds of thousands rounds downrange.....With that said, My question is, why would a frame far less complicated that a 1911 frame cost over a $100 more than the best 1911 frame?????? And with some part GLUED in????.....Come on :roll:

Tommy , Why don't You go to the Precision rifles part of this forum....Post photos of Your new rifle and the groups it is shootin'

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Better "mouse trap" always cost more! And I've seen "expensive" 1911s that WOULD NOT RUN! But, I'm curious just where you are getting those "complicated" 1911 frames for a $100 less? The frames that I've looked at in Brownells are just about as expensive. Oh....and require a lot of fitting. Oh...and require a lot of extra parts. This CCF is about $300...and is a drop-in fit......no extra parts needed???? YUP...I see your logic! :eek:

As far as the block being glued in......the factory block is simply slid into the frame. The trigger and frame pins hold it in place. As I said earlier, I haven't had one of these in my hands yet and don't know exactly how they are made. But, I'm getting more curious as more and more start showing up around the shooting world.

I forgot to mention another "advantage" quoted about these frames. They have "longer and tighter" frame rails which "tighten up" the overall Glock lock-up. This could be a good thing.....might be a bad thing. I've seen extremely expensive, tight, closely fitted pistols that would not run. Grab a Glock....nothing done to it.....no tinkering or fixing.....and it will go BANG every time! Only Glocks I've seen with problems were the ones that had been "tinkered" with. Myself included....I've learned a few lessons through the "School of Tinkering With Glocks", and I'm working toward my Masters Degree!
 

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I shot one of the CCF aluminum framed 9mm's a few months ago after a local match. The trigger was pretty much stock, and I noticed little to no difference in the trigger "crisp-ness." Oddly, and this could be a function of the way the gun was sprung, I actually thought that the aluminum frame gun recoiled more sharply than my old 17. Not more recoil, per se, but it seemed to slap my hand a bit more briskly. I shot it both slow fire and at speed, and I got the same impression regarding the recoil impulse. The frame does not flex, and there is no cushioning effect that may be there with a polymer frame, so maybe it just felt different to me. It is very tough to articulate. Also, the grip angle is a bit different, which could effect my perception of the way it behaved.

From what I could see, the gun went bang every time and had no failures with me or with the owner who put about 100 or so rounds through it during the match. He was very happy with it, and said that he had no problems with it at all - so I guess that's the important part - the shooter being comfortable with a gun that works every time, right?

And it didn't have to o to a custom plumber to be "fitted." There's a lot to be said about that, too.

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these frames suck. i had built one, for shooting at an academy, and it didn't even last 750 rounds. it was nice up untill then. their customer service is even worse, been waiting for a replacement for months, was told a couple months ago no problem just ship us your slide for fitting to the ne frame. then after calling to check on it, i was told they will not be replacing it. the pins it came with were not good, and cause the malfuction ( the left slide rail to shatter). the represtive is a jerk, and told me it not a overnight turn around, and not to call everyday. i had called 3 times, one to confirm delivery then waited two months and called for a sit rep, and then after another6 weeks to get a sit rep that i had not recieved. save your money call lone wolf.
 

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Did they ever make it right? IF they did or didn't, I would be interested to know.
 

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Since I first started this post I have had two CCF steel frames. They worked well enough with Glock slides, not so well with the one aftermarket slide I had. I even used a 17L on one of the frames for a bit. Frame peening occured on the aftermarket slide, didn't seem to be an issue with the Glock slides. Pros: I can't really think of a useful one. Cons: 1) Weight goes up dramatically but I knew that going in 2) Seems that long term life of slide and frame may be shortened and buffers seem counterproductive to my own shooting. Bottom line: do like I eventually did - learn to do Glock grip reductions/shaping and once fitted to your hand keep parts stock.

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I know very little about a glunk....Untill I took a glock armourer class I'd only had a glock in My hands a few times, had never fired one an it's been the same after the glock class.....Now Bolton?.....He knows glocks like few others, God only knows how many hundreds of thousands rounds downrange.....With that said, My question is, why would a frame far less complicated that a 1911 frame cost over a $100 more than the best 1911 frame?????? And with some part GLUED in????.....Come on :roll:

Tommy , Why don't You go to the Precision rifles part of this forum....Post photos of Your new rifle and the groups it is shootin'

Bill Caldwell

huge +1. stick with the stock glock frame. if you're going to drop cash on a new frame, do it for a 1911. :)
 
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