I think a few of us have to get together and contract some major manufacturers to put together some 9x23's. Then we can convince the ammo makers to produce some different loads. If L.E.A's would adopt the round we would be in like flint. John Ricco the father of the 9x23 had a chance to have Kimber make 100 pistols, but he balked and they didn't get made. If we all E-Mail John maybe we can convince him,or better yet lets bankroll the project for him. How about going halves? What do you think?