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...Not really...BUT!

What if? What if you could have a training course, that had everything you can dream of, and you could choose the instructor/s...
...Living or dead...This IS a dream!

What would it be?
Who would instruct?

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In the broadest sense of tactical training, I think I would like to spend an afternoon with George Patten, and perhaps Montgomery and Rommel. Tacticians in the truest sense of the word.

In a more practical sense, I think it is not fair to mention any names (Andy Stanford) for fear I may omit some ingenious and outspoken modern day legends. There are too many good trainers (Andy Stanford) who are all worthy of respect. Some of the modern day innovators have yet to make the big break (Andy Stanford), but they are the new breed of teaching fighting in general, and with a handgun in particular. We all know the Hackathorns and Smiths. They are good (great?), but some other lesser knowns are in the wings just ready to emerge.
 

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WOW!

Big eyes for sure!

I think I'd like to have gone to the first Gunsite with Col.Cooper...

I'd like to have been with Geronimo for a while;)

I do like the idea of hangin' with Rommel!
Maybe...General Sun

And of course the first class of monks that were taught the exercises that would strengthen and envigorate them so that they would no longer fall asleep during their lessons...

Maybe some horsemanship with Genghis Khans guys or down Mexico way with a few of the "desperadoes" and revolutionaries...

...I'm a kinda' simple guy, just the "basics"...:wink:
 

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If the stories are true, Wm. Fairbairn probably had more gunfighting experience than anyone in history during his time in Shanghai - I wouldn't mind taking a class from him. :grin:
 

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Geez Alpha...I wouldn't mind sittin' in on that one!

...What about flyers? ...any pilots here?
I 've always kinda' liked P-51s, and 38s...and the FW-190...:wink:
 

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On 2001-04-07 20:58, gyp_c2 wrote:
Geez Alpha...I wouldn't mind sittin' in on that one!

...What about flyers? ...any pilots here?
I 've always kinda' liked P-51s, and 38s...and the FW-190...:wink:
Well, our paths cross yet again...:wink:
I'm definitely not a pilot, but I sure am a fan of all the old WWII fighters. Kinda like the Corsair myself. The Mustang is right up there, however. My next door neighbour flew Mosquito fighter/bomber during the war. He's got some good stories.

As far as getting training from some of the aces, it would just mess me up. I have a hard time being tactically correct on two dimensions, let alone three ! :wink:
 

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...Oh come on...Live a Little!


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Roy Leopard, Rob Jones, Paris Theodore.

Masterson, Earps and about a dozen of the Texas Rangers from 1870 to 1930.
 

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Yow...

Good ones, boss...

Welcome Home...

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On 2001-04-09 19:17, Dane Burns wrote:
Roy Leopard, Rob Jones, Paris Theodore.

Masterson, Earps and about a dozen of the Texas Rangers from 1870 to 1930.
Ok, I give up. Who are the 3 first ones?
 

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Guys you'd really want only as friends :grin:

Leopard has been shot and shot more folks than any one I know, much of it with a hand gun. Marine in the Pacific and "retired" in the '90s working for the US Government. But then again I haven't asked the other two, either.

Paris Theodore developed the ASP pistol and a zilllion other "toys" to hurt people with for the US of A. Slightly younger that Leopard. Stand up guy during the Church assination hearings and refused to testify.

Jones? He's a nasty old SF Col. who sucks a big stogie from crack of ass dawn to O dark thirty and carried a matching set of Swensons before most on the list could say gun let alone spell it :grin:

All three of which would be pissed if they knew I wrote this about them!

Cyber space (and lots of it) is a good thing in this case:)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dane Burns on 2001-04-09 22:19 ]</font>
 

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On 2001-03-29 20:58, gyp_c2 wrote:

...Not really...BUT!

What if? What if you could have a training course, that had everything you can dream of, and you could choose the instructor/s...
...Living or dead...This IS a dream!

What would it be?
Who would instruct?

:wink:
The "who" would be more important than the "what" but it would cover all aspects of combatives. The noted "martial artists" in my list would not be picked to teach battlefield tactics but are chosen for their personal insight into mortal combat (and all have been personally engaged in a lethal fight with the possible exception of McGivern).

Just off the top of my head (so I am probably leaving out a bunch) and in no particular order:
King David, Jim Bowie, Nathan Bedford Forest, Wade Hampton, Commodore Perry Owens (that's a name not a rank, and I may have gotten it wrong), Frank Hamer, Jeff Milton, Alvin York, Herbert W. McBride, Ed McGivern, George S. Patton II, Ernest Khouma (MOH winner, killed 250 men in one fight), Jeff Cooper, and the list goes on....

Food for thought,
Cordially,
Jim Higginbotham




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: JimH on 2001-04-10 16:00 ]</font>
 

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OOh!
Good-o!

NBForest..."fustest with the Mostest"

...Great, great, uncle for the family clan...
Been hearin' that since I can remember...mostly from great grandpapa...in between spits and puffs of course!

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As for the rest....Geez! I think you've got it covered!
 

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Gyp_C2 wrote;
NBForest..."fustest with the Mostest"

...Great, great, uncle for the family clan...
Been hearin' that since I can remember...mostly from great grandpapa...in between spits and puffs of course!


Fantastic! My Gr.Gr. Grandfather rode under Forest from just after Ft. Donnelson to the end of the war (he joined up when he was 15), under Dibrell's command. I was particularly pleased to find this out since I had already studied Forrest before my dad did the research revealing his service record (I never knew as a kid... too bad).

N.B. was truly a man among men as fighters go!

Keep the "skeer" on!
Jim Higginbotham
 

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N.B. was truly a man among men as fighters go!

Keep the "skeer" on!
Jim Higginbotham





...and quite a "card", if IRC!
It truly IS a small world. I came into possession of some documentation with my Mothers' estate. Unfortunately, it is in storage in Louisiana with the rest of my mothers' furniture and effects. I know that one of her brothers discovered a line of the family connected to Jack London. I have not had access to that documentation until after my mothers' death in '98. I will be going to retrieve these items in the late summer or early fall...I will, of course, forward any information I think you'll find interesting. The South had quite a few colorful general officers and the relationship is one I have snickered over in private for many years.

Thanks for sharing! I'll speak with you about this again in depth, I hope...

Truly...Glenn
 

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Good list here... many I'm reading for the first time. Texas Rangers in the old-timey days, yup. Fairburn, you bet... knife AND gun. Musashi and Sun Tzu... good ones. I'll keep reading this list and doing web searches to learn... accurate spellings of names are appreciated.

JimH provides a good thought: Medal of Honor winners in general, not for their training insights, but for insights by men who have risen above and beyond, to distinguish themselves in situations that would make most retreat in fear. Heroism is a word too-often used today, but those guys had it. Of course, many didn't live to tell the story themselves. The accounts of MOH winners available in a web search are inspirational reading.

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Wow! Interesting thread here. My list would take a time machine and several lifetimes.

Sun Tzu, Ramses II, Alexander the Great, Guderian, Rommel, Patton, von Clauswitz, any famous gunfighter I could find, the list goes on...

I really enjoy this board, by the way. It looks like it is populated by people that know their stuff and are more concerned with good information than posing or bragging.

Thanks!

Ronin21
 
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