[Spackler4013]

A local shop has a NIB P7M13 for $899. Is that high, fair, or what? I don't know anything about the H&K market, so I have no idea.

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[Cawdor]

It is a good price, especially if it includes the magazines. Unless you are a LEO, you will have to buy pre-ban mags at about $125 each.

 

[Guest]

A new unfired P7M13 with box, manual, cleaning tool and two magazines is worth $1100.00. If the condition is like new, the price you quoted is a fair price if it includes two magazines.
If the condition is less than 98% the gun is worth $650.00 to $700.00 with both magazines.
Add three hundred dollars to the above prices for HK factory nickel and deduct $100.00 if it is non-factory nickel.

 

[StormMaster]

Actually, I think I'd have to go a step further ... this strikes me as a PHENOMENAL price for a NIB M13! Keep in mind that original retail for these guns was often closer to $1300 than $1100, and most P7 proponents (myself included) considered it money well spent.

Used guns in excellent condition are now beginning to fetch these same prices, and -- as observed above -- the magazines alone are probably worth $125 to $150 each. NIB examples are getting very hard to find, and I'd consider this particular offer both a bargain and a wise investment. I can't do much better than that here in Germany, despite the strong dollar and widespread availability ... but then, these are essentially non-importable guns due to their fearsome and destructive "high capacity (13) feeding devices." :sad:

Chuck

 

[Spackler4013]

Thanks everybody.
I think I'll go back to that shop and check it out more closely. It's been there for a few years and the price has been slowly dropping. If I remember correctly, it was at $1150 two years ago.

 

[Spackler4013]

I checked out the P7, only to find that it is a PSP. I had never looked at it closely before and somebody told me it was a P7M13. They were wrong. It is a PSP, in excellent condition, in the box with a cleaning rod and extra magazine. The thing looks new. Currently tagged at $899.
Hate that european-style mag release.

 

[Guest]

Spackler as a PSP and not a P7M13, in 98% and above condition it is worth $700.00 with the box, manual, one spare mag, and cleaning tool.

 

[StormMaster]

Concur.

The PSP, while still an excellent sidearm, lacks the scarcity, desireability and general appeal (at least to the American market) of the M13. I'd rate this an fair-to-poor deal, though it is by no means uncommon.

The lion's share of P7s were sold back in the (pre-USP) glory days of the 91/93/94 when HK Authorized Distributors were still relatively few and far between. As a result, most local shops have had little first-hand experience with them at retail, and they tend to overestimate their value.

Chuck

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[Guest]

Storm Master,
Sorry for the edit in your post, I almost edited your post by mistake, I meant to open mine.