[Sam]

I have been reading about Federal's new +P Expanding Full Metal Jacket ammo. I am thinking of buying a couple of boxes in 9mm and 45 ACP. Any one have experience with this stuff and how come I can't find it on Federals web site? Thanks, Sam

 

[Guest]

Please scroll down this topic and read the thread EFMJ.

Federal has catloged the EFMJ officially as LEO ammo and are selling it through the LEO distibutors at this time.

 

[Sam]

David, Thanks for the info. Does Federal have a web site for LEO ammo like Remington and Winchester? Sam

 

[evanmarshall]

they will eventually produce a line of personal defense loads with this bullet. they sent me some pre-production samples but have sworn me to secrecy. They are currently busy on an le project and will return to this product line later this year.

 

[Soujurn]

I found an online source and ordered 250 rounds of 200gr EFMJ. There was no mention of it being LEO and the email I just recieved from Federal said to call their customer service number if I couldn't find the ammo in my area. Here is that number.
1-800-322-2342

 

[Mute]

ammoman has some of this stuff in stock. You might want to check with them for availability.

 

[Guest]

I checked with several distributors and they have confirmed that EFMJ is available for general use.

It is currently a non-cataloged item like the 45 acp .185gr+P loading but can be ordered through any Federal distributor.

 

[MichaelOrick]

Some Federal EFMJ info for ya; nobody swore me to secrecy (telephone, telegraph, telemike?) If it's a secret, gotta tell me!

This'll probably be the last time anybody tells me anything...

From my G23 the 165/40 did 970 fps.
From my G19 the 124/9 +P did 1065, from a G17/BHP/M92 about 1105. Both vey mild, no flash, very accurate.

Current issue of CH shows over 1150 fps from G19 for the 9mm, way more than I got.

Heard of a 124/9 fired into a deer from a G19 at 15 ft: about 14/.56x.59 (along neck into shoulder/chest, no bones hit). Looks good to me.

I've heard there may be a 357SIG at 135/1250.

Expansion looks great, penetration is not up to FBI standards. Avg exp/pen for the 124/9 +P in the FBI test series is almost the same as the 115/9 Silvertip: about 10-11/.51-.54, 35-50% at/over 12.

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[JLM]

Do any of you guys have all the part numbers for the EFMJ loads?

 

[Guest]

I only purchased two boxes of .40 S&W for testing and gave them away ( I do not use a .40).
But these are the numbers for the 9mm and .45acp:

9mm- P9CSP1, 124gr +P
.45acp- P45CSP1, 200gr +P

 

[MichaelOrick]

CSP (Contained/Controlled Soft Point). Depends on who answers the phone at Federal.

bare gel, cloth, glass:

P9CSP1 124/1120

12.85/.52, 12.55/.52, 8.5/.51

124/1220 Gold Dot

13/.65, 20/.54, 13/.55

P40CSP1 165/980

12.45/.62, 13.3/.60, 11.75/.53

165/1022 GS

14.8/.64, 14.4/.66, 12.5/.51

P45CSP1 200/1050

12.95/.65, 13.7/.65, 11.7/.58

200/1050 Gold Dot

11.7/.75, 18.8/.55

P45CSP2 165/1050

9.1/.74, 9.9/.72, 7.85/.58

165/1050 Hydra-Shok

11.3/.78, 11/.75


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