Not sure how well the old push back on the muzzle deactivation works. My Dad has often related a story of when he and another guy were on guard duty on base in germany and the guy who was posted with him said "hey look at this" while pushing back on the bbl with his index finger and then proceeded to pull the trigger and blow a .45" hole through it(which later had to be amputated from the knuckle up because it was mostly just skin holding what was left of the upper portion of the finger to the rest.On 2001-03-29 19:43, shane45-1911 wrote:
OK, now I have to get serious. I, on the other hand, like them and use them in all my 1911's and the wife's Glock.
I like the (slightly) extra weight over the muzzle end.
On the tactical side, I can still cycle my slide one-handed thru other means (hooking the rear sight on edge of the holster, etc.) and I have had a real world experience that makes me believe that their benefit outweighs any liability. A 1911 (or any other semi-auto for that matter) can get knocked out of battery very easily by a slight blow to the muzzle end. A full length guide rod prevents the slide from accidently (or purposely) being pushed far enough back to cause the chambered cartridge to jam. For the un-initiated, a FLGR comes thru the front of the recoil spring plug. The plug is not a solid front like the mil-spec guns, or guns that do not have FLGR. The effect of the FLGR coming thru the front of the plug actually limits the amount of travel that the slide can make rearward, should an obstruction, (or the BG's hand) try to push back on the muzzle in an attempt to jam the gun.
Nice to see some familiar faces ! I'm not gonna argue with anyonw who says they can live without them. I have had enough experience with and without FLGR to know that they don't make a bit of difference as far a reliability goes. I have seen SLIGHT improvement in accuracy with a Ransom rest however. The improvement was only about 1/4" at 25 yards however. Don't think that means a whole lot on a fightin' gun. I believe that they don't hurt, so there's no harm in their use.On 2001-03-29 23:16, gyp_c2 wrote:
Well, well, well...
Look what the cat turned up!
Hi guys...I really don't care for them...But since our buddy Shane likes 'em so much...I think I'll just try one!
I know Brown has one for my Champion...Whatdya' think Shane?
Will I need any other parts to change over to the FLGR? :roll:
I'm afraid you lost me there, Shane whatcha' mean? :???:Gyp_c, I'm sure that your Champion will function just fine with a FLGR with nothing else required. You may want to order a couple - your dog will want the first one
Not sure how well the old push back on the muzzle deactivation works. My Dad has often related a story of when he and another guy were on guard duty on base in germany and the guy who was posted with him said "hey look at this" while pushing back on the bbl with his index finger and then proceeded to pull the trigger and blow a .45" hole through it...On 2001-03-29 23:40, shane45-1911 wrote:
On 2001-03-29 22:51, Eugene_G. wrote:
Hilton, it is unrelated but are you the same Hilton Yam that I traded a Carbon fiber folder to a few years back?On 2001-03-31 21:42, Hilton Yam wrote:
I dislike the FLGR in that it makes the pistol harder to strip. The extra weight is unnecessary, as I feel that any weight that can be trimmed is a good thing since I carry it every day. No one can empirically tell you that a FLGR will increase reliability, so that's another point. As far as the issue of getting knocked out of battery, this was beaten to death on 1911forum. My thoughts: the 1911 is locked in battery if the safety is on. That's the position I'd use if I was beating on someone with it. If we really want to get paranoid about contact shots and out of battery problems up close, then consider that *maybe* the top front of the slide could get pushed back. So if we want protection from ALL possibilities of getting pushed out of battery in CQB, we'd better get an Alternate Force Block to be sure.
Hi Joey!On 2001-04-01 16:34, J Sanders wrote:
It seems to me that my shock buffs show a little more wear without the rod than when its in. Has anyone else noticed this