[VoceNoctum]

sold a G36, and the customer brings it back, saying it won't lock open.
I drew teh slide back, and it wouldn't go all the way back. So, I take the slide off and the guide rod is in pieces. The center "rod" was missing. It wasn't in the box or anything so I wonder if Glock just missed this. Couldn't have been test-fired in this condition.
Very rare failure, but I just couldn't help (being a smart-ass) saying "must be that Glock perfection I read about" :smile:

 

[VictorLouis]

From researching this issue on Glock Talk, I grew convinced to buy a replacement STEEL guide rod for any Glock intended for carry. Your post has just pushed me over the fence.
Better safe than sorry.

What do you mean the "center rod was missing"? AFAIK, the plastic rod has no center core. I have seen such a small steel rod offered as an accessory to insert into the plastic rod for reinforcement.

 

[Weiser 878]

Victor, the G36 uses a 2 spring design ala the seecamp...
For the customer who's G32 broke...a G30 system will fir and function jsut fine

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[VoceNoctum]

Yeah, teh G26,27,29,30,33 and 36 all have the double recoil rod that Seecamp designed.
This is also used in the Colt Defender, Pocket 9, the Para P-10 and the Kimber Ultra's.

Of note, Colt, Para (IIRC) and Lasermax licensed the design (Lasermax for their laser's to use in teh aforementioned Glocks) while the others just used it without permission AFAIK.

 

[Chris Oslin]

IMHO, it seems that this was an assembly or QC "human" error, not one in the engineering of the gun.

 

[VoceNoctum]

Yeah, Glock probably had a small error in one of the springs, and missed it.
Of note, beginning of last year, they had a recall on a batch of G26/27's with bad recoil spring assemblies.
It's not that I'm saying Glock's are bad guns, I'm just saying they're not "perfect" :smile:

 

[Guest]

I solved this problem on my G36 by installing the stainless guide rod/recoil reducer with Wolff springs from Harrts.
They do not list a model for the G36, but I used the model for the G29/30 and it works very well. In fact muzzle snap feels more like the mild G23.

 

[Teddy Jacobson]

I have seen these guide rods break and the best solution is call Dave at wolff 800 545 0077 and buy one of his new steel guide rods. ....it will solve your problem. Do not waste you money with a mercury filled guide rod, its mental perception I have never seen one that worked. Stop reading the magazines because they glorify every thing. The wolff spring is not captivated but works fine use a recoil spring 2 lbs over the factory standard.

Teddy Jacobson / pistolsmith
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281 277 4008
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[Guest]

Teddy,
I'm not quite sure why the Harrts comments but it does in fact work, I too was skeptical until I asked four shooters to shoot three Glock model 23 pistols side by side, one was bone stock, one had only the Wolff guide rod and one was fitted with the Harrts.
I blackened each guide rod end and each Glock was laid on the range table fully loaded with Federal 155gr JHP ammo from the same three boxes.
Each shooter was allowed to fire 10rds and without fail each shooter noticed the difference. One shooter even insisted/questioned if it was the same ammo in each gun.
I have repeated the test more than three times now, the last one was done with four local Police Officers from my home township, each one of them purchased their own Harrts unit after the tests.
I guess it is a case of shooter perspective. The Remington 870 Harrts unit makes a tremendous difference, enough that within two rounds fired you will feel the difference. Go with what you know, as an example I have read gunsmith and shooter comments/opinions where the person has stated that shock buffs do not work and do not offer any advantage. In my experience they provide an extreme value as I was tired of cracked 10mm frames, with shock buffs no additional cracked frames and that has been a welcome change, most people will never realize the advantage as they will not put as many 10mm rounds downrange in 10 years as I average each year.
Don't misunderstand me, I value your opinions but I need to use the things that work for me and I recommend each shooter test anything personally before using it.

 

[Teddy Jacobson]

I will be glad to sell you my mercury filled guide rod for $25. Maybe you can find it helps you. It does nothing for me.It is for a Glock 23.

Thanks
Teddy