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Any other H&k collectors/addicts out there?
Do you also enjoy the pain-$/joy of purchasing German firearms?
I am interested in exchanging info with other collectors of H&K firearms and shooter/users of them.

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David

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I just bought an HK USP .45 Expert, waiting to take possession of it next week. I can wait! It’s my first though. :smile:
 

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Bought a used,hard chromed P7 PSP a few weeks ago. Quite a remarkable handgun. Thought I'd have problems with the squeezecocker but it felt completely natural and was amazingly accurate as well. There are certainly more P7's in *my* future.
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I have a few HKs and some Benelli/HK shotguns. DDifabio: In another post (Best Guns) you said you had a P7M7 .45...WOW that is like the HOLY GRAIL of HK firearms. Here in Honolulu there is an HK dealer (FYI.. he is a lunatic) who has a lot of rarities and protos. He is interesting but unpleasant to talk to. There was once a rumor that a P7M7 was for sale in Hawaii, and I got emails from many members at HKPRO asking if I knew the seller or had an inside track to the sale. I would very much be interested in hearing about it as it was my understanding that there were indeed 5 protos but HK owns them all and there are none in circulation. It is very cool to hear from someone who has seen one, much less owned one. Incredible! I will not bore you with my mundane assortment of common HK arms. :smile: Your PSG1 is also impressive. Edited twice as it is late and I be a terrorable shpellur



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John, read my "Forum Features" post. :wink:

David, that IS one very cool P-7. Can't wait for you to get your camera!

FWIW, I hope we don't have people that refer to you as DD too. I saw a couple posts that I thought were addressing me, only they were really meant for you. I am too easily confused folks -- can we please just address him as David? :smile:

DD

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MPower,
Please note in the other post to stop the email asking me to sell it.
I will give a brief history on my relationship to that gun.
I purchased it at auction for $45,000.00
in July of 1994. In August of 1998 I sold it to a firearms broker form England who transfererred the pistol to a very wealthy individual who also owns several gold plated MP5's and as I was informed the original prototypes of both the P7M6 and the MP5.
(Forgive me ok,I was working on my MBA and needed the extra money to build a new house)Believe it or not I agreed to sign an NDA that prohibits my disclosing both the selling price and the final owners name and information, but I am well aware that several of us HK addicts know the person lives in the middle East and happens to also buy American Models (Playboy bunnys) for several months at a time. I have tried on numersous occasions to find pistol #5 as HK still owns #1,2, and 4.
If anyone knows where it is please emailme with the contact information, if a deal can be brokered I will pay you a 3-5 point finders fee.
DD,
No problem, David has always worked and I answered to DiFabio for 13 years...
 

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Feh! I still regret not buying that P9s in .45 and HK 94 back in the 80's Man...I can tell you regret stories about no buys and guns I've sold.
 

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The future is now! Ordering a mint P7 M13 later on today. These P7's are remarkable handguns.
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I recieved an email this evening from a fellow HK tinkerer letting me know that he has successfully converted his P7M13 to 9x23.
I have not seen this work/function in real life so it may be vapor wear at this point.
I know that Jeff Cooper once detailed at length his Super 9 project with Lee Jurras
where they were able to raise the velocity of the 9mm round to 1700 fps when fired from the P7 but the brass often came apart due to the HK chamber grooves and the +p++ pressures.
HK has publicly stated that pistol can withstand pressures up to 65,000 cup due to the gas piston/bleed off design before accelerated wear begins to happen.
Do any of the gunsmiths that prowl this site have any thoughts? Besides not firing 9x23 out of a P7? Is it something that seems possible?
 

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Dane would know. Wow,do I have a potential super super pistol on my hands? How would the conversion affect accuracy?
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I want to make one point, Cooper stated that the brass came apart, I do remember from the photos and samples that the cartridges were completely split along the groove lines in the chamber and they often did not extract.
Loading any pistol round to a pressure level that you know the case cannot hold is fool hearty at best and seriously dangerous.
I would ask that Dane or anyone that understands such things advise on wether this is even possible.
I am not advocating this as I am skeptical myself and am only curious if it can really work.
I did convert a P7M10 to 10mm and experienced no ill effects from it but it is beefed up noticeably over the P7M8/13 series
to handle .40 let alone a high intensity round like 9x23 be very careful with "hotrodding" gun/cartridge projects.
 
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