[38 Super Combat Commander]

Do any of you guys use a Browning Hi Power for IDPA events.

 

[GrandmasterB]

I shoot my Hi Power in IDPA. There were at least two other shooters with Hi Powers at the match I attended today.

 

[Pistolero]

Yup, shoot an FN in ESP. Only complaint is the trigger re-set but am habituated to the Glock 34's very short re-set use in SSP.

 

[Chad Ward]

Yup, my BHP.40 is my primary competition gun. The hard-kicking .40 puts me at a bit of a disadvantage with all the 9s in ESP, but I still like the .40 better.

Frankly, I'd like to see the single action .40s bumped up to CDP and let the 9s and 38Supers battle it out in ESP.

Chad

 

[NeilCasper]

Several of my shooting buddies (myself included) use the HiPower in ESP division. So far I haven't been too successful with it. I keep having problems that are mostly operator error.
During a classifier today the trigger got extremely hard to pull. This has happened before but I could find nothing wrong with it and it got better.
Today it happened again. I suspect the aftermarket extended safety. I'll get it figured out. Ut is very accurate and I love the gun, but after having Novak bar-dot night sights put on it, I can't afford to get rid of it.

 

[jm10mm]

A friend of mine shot the Northeast regional championship with his FN HP and won the sharpshooters division. He recently bought a Rock River and can't get it to run. He keeps going back to the Hi-power, he has never had a FTF, and he swears by them not at them.

 

[RickB]

I've shot a couple of matches with my HP. I found that the light recoil, compared to the Detonics Combat Master I usually shoot, put me in an unintended spray-n-pray mode. I'll probably shoot it some more, in my quest to become a Four Gun Marksman . . .

 

[KK20]

plenty at my club including myself

 

[44Fundi]

I have won every ESP shoot this year with my HP, not bragging competition is thin around here in ESP most people hotrods shoot the other divisions, but the long reset has made me realize I would get schooled by an equally skilled shooter with a 1911 or a Glock or an XD. I knew I could outshoot my HP speedwise sometimes but it was incredibly evident in the last match. One stage if I remember correctly had 6 targets directly in front of you staggered from 5 yards out to about 20 yards almost overlapping like dominoes. So, you drew and shot the targets one shot center mass each and then come back one shot to each head starting with the 5 yard on the right and working back as they stagger to the left. So, your point of aim barely changed "slightly" left as you engaged each target. The point here is I could fire and re-acquire a sight picture much more quickly than I could reset the trigger because of the target spacing. Usually by the time I re-acquire a sight picture I've reset the trigger, but this drill/stage created a situation which allowed such ease/speed of acquiring the next target that I pulled the trigger 11 times on the first 6 shots because I had a perfect sight pictures so quickly it didn't allow a for a full reset before your eyes/brain were ready for the next target. My eyes , recoil and sight picture were much faster than the reset on my BIG $ Custom HP. Frustrating, but I still love the little P-35s! They are kind of like Light Sabres "an elegant weapon for a more elegant time"!

 

[David Winkler]

If winning ESP is your goal...get a Colt in 38 Super and load it to PF126 and have a good time..you cannot outrun the gun, trigger reset, it is flat, and very capable out to 50 yds....you should win more than your share...

 

[44Fundi]

I'm not a gamer, I like winning for my wee ego, but really just want to get better tactically. My first issue gun was a P-35 so I have just wanted to get as good as I can with what I know very well, but want to know its draw backs when compared with the other similar division guns. All I carry are P-35, Combat commander in 45 and S&W MT Gun in 44 Mag, so I will compete with those and win or lose I will learn and have fun. I was just curious how handicapped I was in ESP with the P-35. I love them and wish they had a better reset and less overtravel.

God Bless and Thanks To All

 

[Bill Caldwell]

IDPA IS A GAME

There can be no doubt in ANY BODYS MIND that idpa is a game.

So,....What's wrong with GAMEIN' or being a GAMER?

Thanks,
Bill Caldwell

 

[44Fundi]

I didn't say there is anything WRONG with being a gamer. I just said I am not a gamer. I believe there are 2 different mindsets to IDPA competitors.

One is the gamer who pushes the edges of the game envelope for the sake of te game even when it would conflict with proper or practical defensive techniques or strategies. Then there is the Tac Guys who don't really care about winning the "game", keeping score is simply a way of measruing there own personal goals , which are based more on being as defensively proper and practical in their tactical applications of fire and movement and are done soley to further their real world training to win a real world fight.

The gamer practices with the game in mind and the Tac Guys practice witht the real world in mind. JMHO

 

[David Winkler]

You need to have fun and game the IDPA matches 'cause they are not training of any kind...Real training comes from places like Front Sight, LFI, Gunsite, etc...In the words of Clint Smith, always cheat, always win...that is the real world for you...

 

[44Fundi]

No it doesn't
Real training is a mindset and can be performed everyday and anywhere you are in any situation if you so choose.

God Bless

 

[balticmac]

tom discussed this in the unmoderated topic forum yesterday......