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Anyone else like the Socom as much as I do.
Thought I would share a photo of the Socom in all of it's glory complete with Knights suppressor, Safariland issue holster and mag pouch along with some expanded 185 gr. Winchester Ranger SXT-R +P+ rounds.
 

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...ooohhhh

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Mk 23... You mean "The Brick?"

I used one when they first hit Bragg and Little Creek. Didn’t like it one bit without the can. With the can it is a nice pistol. It just weighs too much.

Tom Freeman
http://www.limitedgun.com/PPPS
 
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On 2001-04-09 17:53, Tom Freeman wrote:
Mk 23... You mean "The Brick?"

I used one when they first hit Bragg and Little Creek. Didn’t like it one bit without the can. With the can it is a nice pistol. It just weighs too much.

Tom Freeman
http://www.limitedgun.com/PPPS

Tom,
I agree with your sentiments on size/shape and apparent ergonomics for those 7 footers and above. I watched several squads attempt to train with the MK23 in cold weather gear, it was good for a laugh.
I should note that HK has agreed to some design changes that will make the first edition civillian version a collectors piece
and if history repeats itself that will mean a solid return on investment for the collector.
 

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Most I have heard from say the MP5K or PDW is better for the intended purpose on one side or a plain jane 1911 on the other side.

So no, I don't like it at all :grin:

Nice investment, terrible gun.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dane Burns on 2001-04-09 20:20 ]</font>
 

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Never one to stomp on another guy's passion, but.....the one I owned should have been kept as an investment, I guess, 'cause it was a PITA to haul around. Anything that big needs to fire a rifle cartridge :smile:

Heard the military had racked most of these for some problems associated with the can / slide??
 
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Bruce,
I made mention of the redesign in my earlier post. It is interesting to note that the German GSG9 has ordered the USP tactical in lieu of the MK23.
I am currently searching for a complete German import to mothball for a rainy day investment.
 

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It saddens me to learn this about the GSG9. They always had the SIG P-210, a fitting status gun for their ranks. Now it's plastic city for them too.

Kind of like the berret issue here.
 
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Peter,
I see you are also a fan of the P210.
I have three working towards four.
From what I understand this was not a large order so they may be special purpose pieces.
I though it odd as HK has tried to disuade military users from the "civillian" USP line.
 

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I particularly like the trigger on the P-210. It is really unique how it uses the hammer spring and lower pivot plate to actually "set" for the final letoff. The initial takeup, which moves the hammer back a bit to the set position is butter smooth also. A great trigger. Cool how the trigger group just pulls out. Not a lot of high polishing went into the triggers hammers and sears of the guns I have shot, but they sure felt like it.

The practise setting for the trigger is also a nice feature. Not exactly like the real letoff, but close enough for me.

What is most suprising is that the pistol is unusually loose for the accuracy it has. Most P-210's I have shot have been remarkably accurate.

This pistol has led me to believe that the Briley linkless barrel might be a pretty fine alteration to the basic 1911 design. I will definetly be investigating this further. I have not seen one of these barrels up close yet. But if it has the greater crosspin bearing area ala P-210 it's going to get a try for sure.

Don't you just love how all the parts on the P-210 are machined? Amazing. Good thing the Swiss don't get into wars, they wouldn't have the time for this machining.

Takedown beats the 1911 hands down too. Couldn't be simpler. Would make a really fine CCW gun if it was a 4" with a shorter grip, and a slight beavertail. I have gotten bit quite a few times. Thats the only real complaint I have.
 
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Peter,
I jsut received word that my "new" P210 was shipped from Birdsongs and I should have my hands on it this Friday. Pics will follow of course, now I need a Bullfrog and Ostrich holster to carry it in.
 

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On 2001-04-23 19:01, David DiFabio wrote:
now I need a Bullfrog and Ostrich holster to carry it in.
You just completely crack me up. On the other hand, hedgehog with capercaille trim or an armadillo shell holster might be nice too.

Enjoy your new piece to pieces. :wink:
 

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David,

I will look forward to pics of the "new" P210. BTW, you might wanna ask Mark about trying ostrich vulva. Very resiliant material and it is noted for its self lubricating property -- natures own Leather Lightning. :grin:

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You just completely crack me up. On the other hand, hedgehog with capercaille trim or an armadillo shell holster might be nice too.

Enjoy your new piece to pieces. :wink:

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Peter,
Well I hope reading my posts makes your day better. Seriously, why would I carry a $2,000 pistol in a $100.00 piece of cow or horsehide?
That is the equivalent of having a fabric interior in a Ferrari convertible.
Some things just do not go together and for me I prefer to match upper line items with upper line accessories.
I could go on- sneakers with suits, ties with short sleeve shirts, black shoes with tan pants, socks with sandals etc...
 

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David,
There's no questioning your taste. Certain
guns in plain leather are like laminating burled walnut with balsa wood...

DD and Peter,
Haven't worked in armadillo or ostrich vulva (ha-ha), but can occasionally get beaver tail and anteater - both of which look pretty interesting...
 

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David,

I hope you realize we are just funnin' ya? I do enjoy some of the exotics too. I just received a new rayskin holster I am fond of and some of your jolster choices are especialy nice. :smile: The Ferrari comparison is a good one. I have a friend who ordered his 360 Modena with the factory golf bag that is made of the very same leather used in the interior.

Mark,

The ostrich vulva was a refrence to something of an inside joke that started with Luigi on GunSpot. Somehow we got to talking exotics and 256M-S mentioned elephant ball sack and aligator foreskin and the rest of the themes sorta developed from there. :grin: See the Alessi Exotics thread in the Holster Forum for links to the original stories.

DD
 

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David,

Never did I mean any disrespect to you. I just found the combination of bullfrog and ostrich highly original. You have to admit, it's not often you hear the two together. I agree with you fully about going top drawer. I'm comissioning a set of tigereye grips as we speak. Should put the best wood grips to shame.

You got a P-210 for 2000.00? Thats a hell of a good deal. Nice shopping!!!
 
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No harm done guys, I'm in an off mood today after being rearended at 40 mph in my wifes Mercedes truck, well at least I can write a post on holsters that survive car crashes and provide solid weapon retention.
Mark called me and suggested Ostrich with water buffalo this evening.
Peter, $2,000 is high for my broker. I usually pick 210's up in the $1200-$1500 range for 98% and above.
 

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You see that DD, water buffalo!! Thats so close to my cape buffalo ball sack that I just might try get a holster from it rather than my shotgun recoil pad covered. There's sure plenty enough material.

I was wondering about that price David. last NIB P-210 I saw was 2975.00. Hell even at 98% your getting some fine prices.

Sorry to hear about the Benz. That really ruins a mans day. Your wifes too I bet. Did you get out unscathed?

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Peter,

Perhaps you should consider giving David a pair of the Cape buffalo ball sacks, so that he can use them filled with water as a stylish sort of rear end protection device on the Benz? :grin:

David,

Glad to hear you and your wife weren't injured in the accident. :smile: Bummer when that happens. Well, nothing like ordering a custom holster to distract one from the events of a terrible day. The ostrich and water buffalo combo sounds interesting. I don't think I have ever seen those materials combined. Photos will (naturally) be required!

DD

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