I think several people need to grow up and quit bickering. I used to be a very competitive B.A.S.S. tournament fisherman and finally got fed up with the arguments backstabbing lying and while following the letter of the rules basically cheating. Even at the local club level.I came to IDPA because I figured it was greed that caused this. I come to these forums to learn stuff that will make me a better shooter with my gun. I shoot a .40 Highpower in ESP. If IDPA created a new division that included only .22 rimfire and .40 HP's I would still shoot my HP I go to matches to have fun and make myself a better shooter. If I win great if I don't great I enjoy getting a little better each time. I see unfair practices around me My HP will shoot quarter size groups and I have been scored a miss when I know it was a hit I've seen a shooter who is obviosly an expert or maybe master shooting in Sharpshooter division don't know if like me he chokes at the qualifiers, hasn't got around to shooting a qualifier or is trying to be slick and win in a lower division. But you know what I don't care. I shoot against myself. I hang out before and after the shoot and eat cookies swap war stories, tease other shooters and get teased in return. The IDPA shooters I meet pretty much do the same. My first match a man I never met handed me extra magazines a mag holder and enough extra rounds so my check things out visit became a shoot the match visit with my carry gun. To me that's what IDPA is. If you want to show up with your grey area sponsor provided equipment nitpicking every letter of every rule come on out I'll strike up a conversation pick your brain and maybe learn something new. But I'm not going to lose any sleep because sombody has a better caliber, holster, etc than I do.