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I recently ordered one of these as a gun to shoot ESP(Enhanced service pistol) in IDPA, and also to take advantage of the super-cheap 9mm ball currently on the market.

After hearing about the various improvements to the "Loaded" SA line, I was tempted. I paid my $$$, and the gun arrived today.

THE FINISH
The Stainless (Only way 9mm's come AFAIK)
Adjustable sight gun came out of the box with a crisp satin finish and a much better carry bevel than previous razor-like SA's.
More attention needs to be placed on areas like the underside of the slide, ejection port, and rear of slide, but hey, thats what I pay you guys for. Nice work on the rollmarks. The serial# is dot-matrix, but with improved aesthetics over others I have seen.

THE PARTS
Several parts are actually chrome plated non-stainless steel (extractor, ejector,slide lock, mag catch, bushing, grip screws, pins, stock bushings, hammer, mainspring housing), while some are blued (sear, disconnect,sear spring, MSH plungers).

The thumb safety and grip safety are brushed and bead blasted stainless, respectively.
The firing pin is Titanium to pass the CA drop tests.

THE BARREL
A ramped, Storm Lake Barrel is installed.
The barrel is nicely crowned. This barrel does not appear to have been fitted at all, and the lower lugs bear unevenly on the slide lock pin, however there is zero up and down play when in battery. Shooting will tell the true tale.

The barrel to bushing fit is poor (loose). This could certainly be improved

SIGHTS
LPA Bo-maresque adjustable is bevelled well enough for range-work. The front is a dovetailed ramp (new for 2001). A very nice job was done on this, and while too thick for precision shooting, is a much nicer setup than the old swaged- in sight. it uses a solid pin, as opposed to the Novak-style roll pin to secure it in the dovetail.

SLIDE/FRAME fit is snug and extremely smooth.
A minimum of machine marks present, with some evidence of fitting.

The trigger broke at 8 very crisp pounds of pressure.A bit of spring tweaking and de-burring has reduced this to a very shootable 4.5 lbs. Good enough for government work.

The full length guide rod is stainless and a quality part, as opposed to the old blued "Loaded" rods in last years guns.

The safety snicks on and off with perfect tension. The gun feeds various bullet shapes well by hand. I will shoot it tomorrow and give you all an update.

Overall I am very pleased with my purchase.
It will make a nice project gun, as all the major parts seem to be of high overall finish and quality.

The fit and finish is more consistent than many Springfields I have handed in recent months.


I smell a 9x23 in my future, based on this platform.


After playing with it a bit more, I determined that the disconnector was hanging slightly inside the mag well and causing some friction. I swapped out the part with a spare GI and all is well. Just picking nits.






<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Anthony Lombardo on 2001-04-27 00:37 ]</font>
 

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Congratulations! :wink:
 

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I have had 4 of these in my shop in the last
8 weeks,including mine.2 were really fitted
nice,the other 2 were ok,all of these have
the Novak sights(wish mine came with adj's).
The thumb & grip safty's are chrome plated,
all were good shooters(mine needs some work)
all in all nice guns. Tom Novak

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Mine seems to be pretty good too. One thing that I've noticed is they relieved the side of the ramp on the barrel just a little to clear a tiny protrusion where they milled the frame for the ramp. You can see and feel it on the frame if you look closely. Would it be much of a hassle to flatten that out if I wanted to get another barrel fitted? It doesn't seem to affect the functioning of the pistol but it just bothers me that it isn't "perfect". I guess I'm just anal that way.

I also just got a Para P18 9mm this week. I have to box it up and send it in to get the slide replaced. It shoots fine but when I took it apart to clean it yesterday, I found a tiny crack on the underside of the recoil spring plug tunnel on the slide. I guess it's not my lucky week.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Paten on 2001-04-27 09:43 ]</font>
 

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Glad to hear you got a good one. Seems like SA has been working on improving their overall quality a bit while still giving us decent prices.
 

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I bought one for fun several weeks a go. It is a blast to shoot.

One thing for sure it is no custom gun, I am spoiled rotten but for the money the new Springfield Loaded Package is a very good value and is well worth the money.

I did notice a marked slower slide action with the cheap target 115 9mm ball ammo. The gun runs real well with the Gold Dot 124 Plus P. It also runs well with 124 NATO ammo. With the hotter loads there is no slower slide action.

Anyway. I am glad I got it. The retail operation I work for got three and sold all in one week end. They also got one the new 40 S&W. I have not heard anything on those yet.

We only sold one so far.
 

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Have any of you 2001 SA loaded owners tried 10 round 38 super mags loaded with 10 rounds of 9mm? I know the 9mm mags have the little spacer in the back, but I am curious if these pistols work with 38 super mags.

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The 9mm Loaded shoots great...350 rds (3 boxes PMC, 2 boxes PMP, 2 boxes federal 115 gr jhp), no FTF's..one failure to lock back the slide on the last round...
Very tight groups at 10-15 yards. No recoil.

The sluggish action improved greatly after the break-in.
federal 9mm 115 jhp (9BP) loads are about 100 fps hotter than PMP surplus SA and work the slide a bit more briskly, but the milsurp seems to shoot fine.

After a trigger job and a wedge housing this gun will be perfect for the $$'s invested.

As Terry said, this gun ain't no "custom" but gives a lot of bang for the buck. I sure like it.

.38 super mags will probably work-sometimes. I wish someone made a 10 rd'er...
 

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Built a limited 10 gun out of a 1991 colt 9mm last feb for a
female shooting friend.We are using the 10rd super mags,had to do
a little prepping but they work great. Tom Novak

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MSRP is $837 on SA's site. What are they going for on the street?
 

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I brought a new 2001 Champion for $689 in L.A. You can probably find it for less in more gun friendly territories. A full size loaded sold for the same price as the Champion in the store where I made my purchase.

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Wholesale price on the stainless, fixed sight 2001 model is roughly $590, with the adjustable sight version about $20 dollars more.

Well worth the money.

I put an arched housing and tweaked the trigger some more.

Now we are getting there :smile:
 
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