Thanks for the replies so far. As was previously stated both IPSC and IDPA are fun and challenging. I do love the speed and gamesmanship of IPSC. There's nothing quite like a gun and run field course with a 21 shot limited gun! That said I also shoot "tactical" 3 gun matches and have done a couple of defensive pistol training courses to help prepare for real world defensive carry. Shootingbuff, I hate that you got into that snobish crowd. There are some great folks in the IPSC world that are fun to be around. One sure way to get their respect though... kick a little tail at their next match!