Okay, now I'm really confused :lol: David, not to long ago you said, regarding the Q4280:
Yes,
Under the "older" part numbering system this is the Ranger loading with "talons".
Under the new system identifyable by the tan box you need to look for the R designation.
Did you come across some new information or something, that led you to change your mind?
The other thing I might mention is the bullets themselves. They have SIX notches in the tip of the bullet, and to the best of my knowledge the non-Talon bullets, ie the commercial Supreme SXT, have EIGHT.