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Howdy, Foax! Can anyone advise me regarding the installation of a lanyard ring on the Glock 27? I see that Nowlin makes one for Glock models 17 through 23, but I've had no luck locating one for the 27. Does anyone know of a gunsmith who might develop one for me, or know of a reason one should not be installed on the Model 27?

Thanx & Best Regards,

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Walt,
Just about anything can be added to a pistol these days. But I gotta ask, why? Do you do a lot of time in the saddle? In all my years I have never ever seen the need to have a lanyard or found where one was needed.
 

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Come on AL , You know that a Lanyard Ring is the ultimate DRESS RIGHT DRESS accessory....A SWAGGER STICK/ ShortTimer Stick is nothin' without a lanyard ring to go with it

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OK, Sarge and Wild Bill, I get the attempts at humor. But aside from the facts that now my thread’s been hijacked and I still don’t have an answer, let me offer some additional information. Now, this’ll be in the form of constructive criticism, so if you think you can take it, man up and stand at attention.

Sarge, you mentioned something about “in all [your] years.” That number may be many, but it doesn’t match mine. I require a lanyard for the simple fact that much of my work in Coastal Georgia takes me over deep water in very small craft, at all hours and in all weather. Shouldn’t take much imagination to recognize the value of a lanyard in those circumstances. But I’ll go even farther. Those foax whose missions require ‘em to scramble over rockfall, through caves, and across deep crevices (no, I didn’t misspell crevasses) in America’s western mountains and deserts find lanyards mighty handy too. And they were also useful in the University of Southeast Asia, where more than a few troops owe their lives to the fact that they had the foresight to sling Mamma Colt around their necks before burrowing into VC tunnels or “bagging out” when things seemed quiet. Let’s face it: when the feces hit the fan at 00-dark-thirty and you bolt for the cover of your firing position, it can be mighty reassuring to discover that weight around your neck when you get there.

My personal theory is that you can always tell an old gunhand by his respect for the lanyard. That’s not at all to say that it is, or should be, more frequently used – I don’t use one when I’m not in the bush, or when I visit a civilian Class VI after dark. Actually, you could make a very good case for that fact that foax whose experiences have chiefly been limited to urban areas don’t sufficiently appreciate lanyards, whereas those of us who’ve spent protracted periods afield hold them in high regard. Sort of a City Mouse vs. Country Mouse thing. And then there are those who’ll say that a lanyard gets in the way. Well, for them maybe it does – I don’t know and care less. Works for me, though, and if you can remain open-minded enough to try it, it can work for you too.

Oh, and that would be, “Walt, Sir.”
 

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OK, Sarge and Wild Bill, I get the attempts at humor. But aside from the facts that now my thread’s been hijacked and I still don’t have an answer, let me offer some additional information. Now, this’ll be in the form of constructive criticism, so if you think you can take it, man up and stand at attention.

Sarge, you mentioned something about “in all [your] years.” That number may be many, but it doesn’t match mine. I require a lanyard for the simple fact that much of my work in Coastal Georgia takes me over deep water in very small craft, at all hours and in all weather. Shouldn’t take much imagination to recognize the value of a lanyard in those circumstances. But I’ll go even farther. Those foax whose missions require ‘em to scramble over rockfall, through caves, and across deep crevices (no, I didn’t misspell crevasses) in America’s western mountains and deserts find lanyards mighty handy too. And they were also useful in the University of Southeast Asia, where more than a few troops owe their lives to the fact that they had the foresight to sling Mamma Colt around their necks before burrowing into VC tunnels or “bagging out” when things seemed quiet. Let’s face it: when the feces hit the fan at 00-dark-thirty and you bolt for the cover of your firing position, it can be mighty reassuring to discover that weight around your neck when you get there.

My personal theory is that you can always tell an old gunhand by his respect for the lanyard. That’s not at all to say that it is, or should be, more frequently used – I don’t use one when I’m not in the bush, or when I visit a civilian Class VI after dark. Actually, you could make a very good case for that fact that foax whose experiences have chiefly been limited to urban areas don’t sufficiently appreciate lanyards, whereas those of us who’ve spent protracted periods afield hold them in high regard. Sort of a City Mouse vs. Country Mouse thing. And then there are those who’ll say that a lanyard gets in the way. Well, for them maybe it does – I don’t know and care less. Works for me, though, and if you can remain open-minded enough to try it, it can work for you too.

Oh, and that would be, “Walt, Sir.”
I will apologize for my attempt at humor. I still stand behind my personal opinion. I did say you can do anything to a pistol these days. Plastics ones are even easier. I have been a "country mouse and city mouse".You have a need, go for it. I never did. I want my weapon accessable to both my hands in a fight. No limitations please. A good decent holster will take care of securing my gun.
 

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Walt... pistolsmith has been run pretty loose from the startup back in 2001 or around that time....Al and Myself were on here just about from the kickoff....Most posts on here do get JIHACKED and I've learned a lot from Jihacked posts so jihacked posts bothers Me none at all....Must be that You are used to bein' treated as an important man wherever You go (thats the feelin I get from Your most recent post, could be I'm wrong )

One thing You need to understand rite quick is several of Us on pistolsmith did the rice paddy shuffle....I can match DD form 214 with most folks ,tunnel "RATS" are nothin' new to Us...never seen one tie a 1911 round His neck ...always in His hand , now I can't say for sure how they were always carried since NoBODY was gonna get Me to stick any part of My G.I. AZZ in a hole or tunnel

Far as Swamps , rivers , so on go , I've spent a lot of time on the Mississippi and the Ouachita ,Beouf , Black, and the Red river, poached Bullagators in the Atchafala Basin with the Cajans , hunted Gators with Toche Brown in the Glades , always had a pistol or two along , never had a lanyard on any of them and so far never lost one....Daddy, GrandPa , and Me have owned a lot of Smiths and Colts with lanyard loops , never saw one hooked up yet

If you worry about losein' Your Glunk, the grip is plastic , find a place where a leather strip or trot line string wont interfere with anything , drill a hole and there You go , don't like where the hole is ,glassbed it over and drill another one

""""Walt, Sir"""???? don't know what that means but if You are demandin' that I "SIR" you...I'll say This to That...Pizz upon You

Far as bein' openminded when it comes to Firearms...Few have "HotRoDDED" the 1911 to the point I have...Havein' built My share of 1911s , few men and no boys have more rounds down range than I have ...Without ever havein' laid eyes on You I'm willin' to compete against You any day

I'm sure Al can write a better reply to You than I can

By the by """"SIR""" welcome to pistolsmith

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OK, Sarge and Wild Bill, I get the attempts at humor. But aside from the facts that now my thread’s been hijacked and I still don’t have an answer, let me offer some additional information. Now, this’ll be in the form of constructive criticism, so if you think you can take it, man up and stand at attention.

Sarge, you mentioned something about “in all [your] years.” That number may be many, but it doesn’t match mine. I require a lanyard for the simple fact that much of my work in Coastal Georgia takes me over deep water in very small craft, at all hours and in all weather. Shouldn’t take much imagination to recognize the value of a lanyard in those circumstances. But I’ll go even farther. Those foax whose missions require ‘em to scramble over rockfall, through caves, and across deep crevices (no, I didn’t misspell crevasses) in America’s western mountains and deserts find lanyards mighty handy too. And they were also useful in the University of Southeast Asia, where more than a few troops owe their lives to the fact that they had the foresight to sling Mamma Colt around their necks before burrowing into VC tunnels or “bagging out” when things seemed quiet. Let’s face it: when the feces hit the fan at 00-dark-thirty and you bolt for the cover of your firing position, it can be mighty reassuring to discover that weight around your neck when you get there.

My personal theory is that you can always tell an old gunhand by his respect for the lanyard. That’s not at all to say that it is, or should be, more frequently used – I don’t use one when I’m not in the bush, or when I visit a civilian Class VI after dark. Actually, you could make a very good case for that fact that foax whose experiences have chiefly been limited to urban areas don’t sufficiently appreciate lanyards, whereas those of us who’ve spent protracted periods afield hold them in high regard. Sort of a City Mouse vs. Country Mouse thing. And then there are those who’ll say that a lanyard gets in the way. Well, for them maybe it does – I don’t know and care less. Works for me, though, and if you can remain open-minded enough to try it, it can work for you too.

Oh, and that would be, “Walt, Sir.”
"man up and stand at attention"

I don't think so. You crossed the line.

My years "don't match yours", what are yours , explain them to us.

Like Bill, I never saw any rat, grunt, trooper carrying his sidearm around his neck. Don't know where you did. In fact, it would be the garrotte of death in a fight. Nothing around the neck hombre, period.

Both Bill and I did the country thing, city thing and everything in between.

Some people get a might upset when you talk bad about their guns. I never saw anyone get so upset when their little lanyard was insulted. Good grief. Loose the ego. So what if others don't agree. Others will. Maybe your wrong? Ever think of that one.
 

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Walter...Would You put Your own definition to "an Old Gunhand " ? Would Bill Jordan qualify ?? I talked to Bill many times , when Reverend Spruell would go over to East Texas to get Mr Jordan to sign more copies of No Second Place Winner I'd hang on with the Rev.... Seein' Him around North La. and East Texas I'd never miss a chance to talk to Him,I don't remember Bill Jordan ever recommendin' a lanyard....I don't guess he'd rate the gunhand title in Your book.....How about Elmer Keith ....I guess I 've read most of what Elmer wrote , remember Him writein' about shootin' Sharks with His 44 magnum , I'll be Damm if I'll beleive He was shootin' sharks in an Idaho gravel parkin' lot , must have been on an ocean somewhere , never read He had a string tied to His 44 mag.....Charles Askins ? Is Askins a gunhand usein' Your definition? I've read His ideas about slings , never read anything about lanyards bein' a great accessory to a pistol or revo

"STAND At ATTENTION"????? Where the Hell You think You are comein from? Were You tryin to give the command "TEN HUT".....Young " 'CRUIT" , You don't put Me at Attention.....Hell Walter if You are a "GUNHAND" You'd have never got on here askin' about a lanyard loop , a gunhand would have came on here with a How to on puttin a lanyard loop on a Glunk

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More I think about it ...seems a lanyard on a pistol is as useless as a swagger stick....Some of the tight places I've been in I can see the damm thing hangin up on everything....How in Hell would You ease thru a bamboo thicket or that elephant grass without callin' in every **** from Hell to Hanoi...dammm canteens and gernades could hang on enough stuff...gettin inside an APC ??? maybe We should have used lanyards instead of Tender Tens....Lanyards would have hung up on every cloud on the way down....Lanyard and Swagger Stick would be very British...."I say old Chap"...Next time I see Lt Tommy Bolton I'll ask if He has outfitted His SWAT team with lanyards...Shield Man wouldn't have to worry about losein' His shield....new industry, fittin' lanyard loops to Swat shields

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Lanyards.....

Nope.....don't use'm. But, I've got a drawer full of'em! Military nowdays is still big on them. They DO have uses...contrary to some of you old timers opinions! With some of our "high speed-low drag" type operators out there on the lines today, they DO use lanyards on their weapons. With SO MUCH gear on......riding on the edge in the doorway of a bird....ain't a wonderful feeling (so I've been told) when the person looks down at their "issue" thigh holster and finds the retention snap open....and no weapon present! And THAT, my friends, is the simple explanation I've been given as to why the military still HEAVILY relys on the lanyard on the pistol. To simply KEEP the WEAPON with the troop during movement!

So...on to the question that was asked. I agree that with it being a Glock (of which I dearly love and carry daily), it is "plastic" as Wild Bill puts it. Ain't much can't be done with it. I'd opt to modify an existing grip lanyard plug to fit whichever model I was wantin' to outfit with one. If'n one isn't available for said model. Should be several Smiths in your area that are quite capable of doing so if'n you checked around.

Don't let these guys fool you none........

Wild Bill recently opted to git himself a Springfield XD.......PLASTIC GUN! He ain't done it yet...and since I let the cat out, probly won't!
 

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Good Job, TT! Jeff Cooper's ghost and I thank you for your support, and for stickin' to the question at hand. I've taken your advice exactly, and had a butt plug w. ring custom built. I appreciate Sarge 'n Wild Bill's positions, and largely agree w. 'em: I was raised on Bill Jordan, Elmer Keith and Chic Gaylord, and I value their guidance. I apologize for raising so many neck hairs, but y'all'll admit it did draw you out, and I besides I know you'll appreciate the old adage, "If you can't take a joke, ...!" And thank y'all for your service!
 
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