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Have you ever had any of the Series 80 parts malfunction your gun?
That is entirely incorrect. The battering that I have seen (on more than my own guns btw) is quite clearly incorrect fitting from the Colt factory on the series 80 parts system.On 2001-05-12 13:55, James wrote:
That battering you see is usually due to people disassembling their guns and not putting them together correctly.
That is entirely incorrect. The battering that I have seen (on more than my own guns btw) is quite clearly incorrect fitting from the Colt factory on the series 80 parts system.On 2001-05-12 16:54, Dane Burns wrote:
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On 2001-05-12 13:55, James wrote:
That battering you see is usually due to people disassembling their guns and not putting them together correctly.
OK, I just haven't seen the improper assembly problems.On 2001-05-14 08:59, James wrote:
That is NOT "ENTIRELY" incorrect. I said usually caused by improper reassembly
Not "odd" at all. The vast majority of Colt guns I worked on from the inception of the system in the early '80s till mid 1990's had incorrectly fitted Series 80 parts installed. Every smith I knew at the time (3) had similar problems. There was a reason that Colt has 3 size leves for the system. Most guns I saw had the incorrect size plunger lever. It needed to be longer.I have heard rumors of incorrect fitting from the factory but I have not run across one yet that the peening continued after a new plunger was installed and the gun reassembled correctly. Would be odd that you somehow managed to get a hold of nothing but misfit series 80 guns.
A given. Another incorrectly fitted gun.The one "cause" I forgot to mention was that many "smiths" set the overtravel screw in their aftermarket target triggers in such a manner that the trigger doesn't go far enough to fully operate the levers.
I see my confusion. I always assume the gun is put together correctly. If the plunger levers aren't in the correct position the GUN WILL NOT FIRE. That is a bit more of a problem than just the resulting peening don't you agree? Let me be clear when I am discussing a series 80 system, the only way it will work, is, by first being assembled correctly and any after market parts being fitted correctly. I expect a gun to be assembled correctly at the factory, or a pistolsmith. Colt had problems with this issue in the past. They seem to be producing a quality product now IMO.BUT it will peen the plunger if the levers aren't in the gun right
Yeah, no kidding, I already said that it wouldn't fire that way. I didn't say that the peening was more of a problem, I said that it would cause the peening (until you take it back apart and fix it - obviously). Kinda surprises me that you have never heard about or seen the levers going in wrong and not working. I guess you really don't see many 80 series guns.I see my confusion. I always assume the gun is put together correctly. If the plunger levers aren't in the correct position the GUN WILL NOT FIRE. That is a bit more of a problem than just the resulting peening don't you agree?
It will obviously fire when not assembled or fitted properly. You are claiming this whole peening problem is caused by improperly fit guns from the factory - and they must have fired as you didn't have to take them apart and reassemble them correctly. The gun will sometimes fire with the plunger spring improperly kinked sideways (depends on how well they rammed it into the hole) in the plunger AND it can also peen this way.Let me be clear when I am discussing a series 80 system, the only way it will work, is, by first being assembled correctly and any after market parts being fitted correctly.
Your original question wasMy question was to see if anyone was currently having problems with Series 80 guns. Seems like Shay was the only one so far from the dscussion.
EVER? To give you a simple answer (as it appears that is what you are after)....NO...not currently NOR in the late 80s and Early 90s.Have you ever had any of the Series 80 parts malfunction your gun?
I guess we have been having different conversations James. Easy enough to do on the internet.Kinda surprises me that you have never heard about or seen the levers going in wrong and not working. I guess you really don't see many 80 series guns.
Oh it's YOU :grin: I should have recognised the nameI don't consider it a series 80 problem