[Dane Burns]

Interesting lunch discussion.

Call would typically be to the shooter if the SO/RO is a fair enough guy. Problem I see is that the guys who generally end up being SOs aren't interesed in fair per say :roll:

Having been a SO at Nationals I can say that :grin:

From what you told me here is my "call". I would have done more and been more definative if I had seen you actually shoot.

I don't believe in perfect doubles

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[Dane Burns]

On 2001-05-07 15:46, John Forsyth wrote:
Having been an SO at the Nationals also, please do not put all of us into that catagory. But I know what you are talking about.

Hi John :grin: I meant it as a joke hence the :roll: When it comes to fair, the quality and speed of the match being ran compared to the shooter who has just shot the perfect double ,that a overlay didn't show, wouldn't make me a "fair" SO in the shooters mind.

Fair is always a concern and the second issue after safety for any SO. You get to be a SO at a National level because you can make decisions in a timely manner that are fair. That is a given. But "fair" isn't the only concern of any SO. How the match functions and how it proceeds is also an issue. Not only to the match staff but to every shooter also.

Just my 2 cents.

(btw I have never seen a perfect dbl in 18 years as a RO for USPSA or lately as a SO in IDPA. BUT I have shot more than a few myself in competition in both sports :grin: )




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[Dane Burns]

Well "fair" is one thing and consistancy is another.

Everyone gets the same stage from me, like it or not :grin:

If someone put a overlay on a bullet hole and it showed a dbl in your eyes or that of another shooter then, yes, things should have gone differently.

Sounds like the best answer was a reshoot, which you did get. It is part of the game.

My first thought that something wasn't right is that a SO pulled a bullet overlay out of his pocket to "be sure". A overlay is a needed part of the ROs equipment in a USPSA match. It isn't needed or wanted by the rules in a IDPA match. The problem, which IDPA has tried to address, is consistancy is needed in SO training. The IDPA rulles are pretty schetchy compared to the USPSA rules. The ROs from USPSA often get drafted early on into being SOs for IDPA. That is sometimes not the best answer for the IDPA shooter.

SOs have been an issue all the way to a National level in IDPA. Not because the SOs are bad but because the shooter's experience level might have give different ideas on what makes a good match and "fair" rules. Many of the shooters came for a USPSA back ground and the different perspectives don't always mesh easily.

IDPA is still a "new" sport and getting everyone on board to the idea behind it and the lack of rules is a challenge IMO.