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Since Shay and Hilton mentioned it I'll fess up to carrying a "parts" gun. Bad parts at that! This is not the best grade gun built from new spec'ed parts :oops: This is not a gun that Larry or Dick would have in their own holsters I suspect.

It grinds on me to be traveling and teaching with something I wouldn't sell to a customer but...as Tracy loves to remind me.."I build guns for a living" :grin: None of the guns I have started collecting would I want in a fight or to teach with. I guess ugly is better than UN reliable :roll: Rule in our house is, "if a BCP 1911 can be sold..sell it"

So here is the story about the "hog" gun. Christened this month in Florida for it's ability to throw a sneak on them baby hogs you have down south :wink:

Frame is 8 or 9 years old,a Springfield NM in stainless. I recut the front strap, trigger guard and dust cover to Colt specs. I also flattened the front of the trigger guard and high gripped it along the lines of what Jericho frames are now. (It is no wonder I like Jericho OEM frames) Added a older Caspian beavertail and cut it way down and high gripped it as much as possible. Then I hard chromed it.

Frame has had half a dozen top ends. 9x21, 38 Super, 9x23, and several 45s. I had put it away last year because it was so loose, even the NM slides new from the wrapper were sloppy on it! It was "retired".

Along comes one of my spec guns, back for a tune up. I decided the slide (a Wilson with Hienie's on it) was too loose so I wanted to tighten it. A little too much torgue on the vice and I owned a new slide :sad: Bad move, not to be repeated! Couple hours with a BIG rubber mallet and some lapping compound that slide and the SA frame were "fitted". Not something I would ever sell but not a bad basis for a "truck" gun either. Heinie's are full size front and black on black, with Black T over chrome.

BarSto came from a refit at Quantico. Somebody got really carried away making relief cuts.

Trigger system is best grade tool steel cut along Swenson's old design with a solid Vedecki set @ a CRISP 5#. Brown single safety cut down, and Brown steel main. Tit. cap and strut, factory mainspring and 16.5# Wolfe recoil and leaf. Colt mag release, slide release and recoil system. One of a kind Micarta dbl diamond grips, S&A engraved screws.


Hilton is right, I took a LITTLE extra time putting it together. I like to say "GOD is in the details." Shay saw how it shoots. Gun is good enough for a retired old duffer like me :oops: I doubt I could ever keep up with the gun.

But next year's teaching gun is going to be a SHOW stopper :roll:




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dane Burns on 2001-11-08 15:21 ]</font>
 

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On 2001-04-15 15:36, Desert Dog wrote:
[quote:2sngv8sz]Rule in our house is, "if a BCP 1911 can be sold..sell it"

-Dane Burns

Bruce and I like that rule berry, berry, much Senor!! :smile: :smile: :smile:

DD
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I like that quote too DD. :grin:

Dane, I'm going to have to get you to do that type of cut/grind job on my Springfield 9mm frame when I send it for the 9x23 conversion. Man I need to get this thing to you sooooon!;'}
 

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Dane:
That front strap contour felt GOOD, like a Colt (is that redundant???). Is it possible to do that contour with hand tools only?

Maybe if you spent maybe a third of the time putting that gun together, you could open your own semi-custom shop. :wink:
 

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Now Dane, when you decide you don't want that "truck gun" anymore you will keep me in mind, won't you?

I don't mind taking it off your hands . . . see, you can sell that one too!

Rich
 

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Geez...as much time as he put into that one, NO ONE will be able to afford it!

But...if you do decide to chuck it, drop me a line!

heeheehee...:wink:
 

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Hilton, all it takes is time and a good file :grin:

You noticed on the time thing, uh?

Ya, you could but a coupe of nice Series 70 guns for the time I have in the recutting and modifing this one.

Just goes to show you, there actually is a gun hidden inside a Springfield :wink: And some times a silk purse can come from a sow's ear :eek:
 

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I don't care what you say Dane. I'd buy it. Fantastic gun, as usual.
 

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That's Dane's idea of a "parts gun?" I've seen what some have considered top of the line models which weren't half as purty.
 

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DD, you and I should pool our money and send Mrs. Burns some flowers. Without her, Dane's shop would just be a repository of fine arms. Seriously, Burns is a gun hog...and I for one ain't afraid to say it! :grin: :grin: :grin:
 

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Seriously, Burns is a gun hog...and I for one ain't afraid to say it! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Naw, Bruce, it is "Burns has a hog gun" :grin: get it straight will you :roll:
 

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I think he got it right the first time, boss. :smile:

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TOUGH CROWD !

You guys better hope my wife NEVER reads this forum! She thinks everyone has at least half a dozen good blasters :roll:

Luigi has a 15K$ engraved SSA and a stolen BCP, and 256 sends me two priceless full house Swensons to clean, DD has more guns than GAWD and Bruce owns more BCP guns than I do. Then Dick Heinie builds a brace of trick guns for Sara, his office helper for chrimney sake!!

GEeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzee.......even Tracy has has ONE full house BCP.

You would think a hard working pistolsmith deserves a couple of quality blasters even if he has to buy them :grin:


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dane Burns on 2001-04-16 14:50 ]</font>
 

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Sounds like ya'll need to start sending them my way. I've only got a Kimber which is completely stock. Outside of my P7s, everything else is either a Sig, Kahr, or, and I shudder to admit it, a Glock.



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Looks like Dane's gonna have to send some of them Swensons this way to buy our silence. :wink:
 

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You know...after seein' what you had to do to get that frame "unflat", I KNOW why you'd rather start with a Colt...I get your point kimmasabee...:wink:
 

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Well, after handling Dane's "Parts Gun" when he was in Atlanta recently, I can say two things:first, that five-pound trigger is SO CRISP that it feels MUCH LIGHTER...second, the frontstrap treatment made it into the best-feeling "Springfield" I've ever had my hands on...makes handling MY OWN SA that much more "painful"....mikey357
 

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Yep...I can see how that could happen!

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Well, a couple of weeks ago I got to shoot this gun again, it was at the end of 5 days of shooting my Wilson and we where in the Fun house, we finished the Drill and Dane had just topped of his gun when I asked him to shoot it again, as soon as I gripped it, it felt real good to my now blistered hands, this gun has NO sharp edges. I emptied the mag into one hole at about 5 yards, thats when Dane told me there where 6 different types of ammo in that mag! this gun is real good.
 

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Hey I tried to sell this gun. The three guys I offered it too knew it's history and none were willing to pay $3000...imagine that :roll:

But thanks to this friendly crew my lovely wife made a point of me at least "trying" to sell it!

Her label for me is "maker" and more importantly SELLER. My label for me is user and collector :grin: Amazing she leaves me home alone!

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