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Is it installing a lighter connector?

What did you do to improve it?

Since I've started shooting 1911's my Glock's trigger is sadly lacking so I', looking for any ideas to improve it. I have the eight pound connector in it now and I'm no longer happy with it.

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The best way of improving a Glock's trigger pull is to buy a 1911. :wink:

Or.....you can go with a lighter connector/trigger spring set-up.

I am not necessarily recommending this practice, but I have also cut a coil or two off of the factory striker spring. NOTE-my Glock is NOT used for anything other than target work. There may be reduced power striker springs in the aftermarket now (Wolff ???)
 

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Matt Kartozian of "Custom Glock Racing" has the best trigger I have ever seen on a Glock - breaking at a pound and a half. This is a really slick setup, and he can do it to any Glock sent to him for work. (Sorry - I couldn't get the link to work.)

I know that Wolff sells reduced power striker springs, and Lightning Strike markets a titanium striker that is supposed to be a great help in slicking up a Glock trigger and improving lock time.

I recently put an old 5 lb connector in my 1st generation Model 17, and did some polishing here and there, and the trigger breaks at about 3.5 lbs. It works great as a game gun, and it has all stock parts and springs, and I have not clipped any coils on any springs.
 

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Well today before my range visit I changed out the connector for a Lightning Strike 3.5#. Before I did so my trigger broke at 7.5#, now it's @ 4#. Groups became noticeably tighter.

Thanks for the advice.
 

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i like the stock trigger for most work, but prefer NY1 spring and 3.5 connector for carry...makes the break more of a surprise, and I find that my front sight no longer shifts when i dry fire.

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I have custom glock trigger packages,
1 for carry & 1 for competition.there's
the specs on the comp. Tom Novak

* Alum trigger
* 1/8th inch take up
* 1.7 to 2.0 break
* Zero over travle

The carry is the same but with a
4.0 to 5.5 break.

Novak's Handgunner Outlet
Ph#(724)539-2774
Email [email protected]
 

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The recent Glock annual mentioned that the 3.5# connector only comes on certain models, and it is NOT sold by them as a replacement part. FWIW, installation of an aftermarket part is cause for voiding the warranty, if that matters to anyone.:grin:
 

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In the Glock armorers course, they actually recommend the 3.5 connector with 8lb spring as a trigger mod, and it makes a difference.
Then they tell you you can't buy the connector :smile:
 
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Well I guess we should not tell Glock that the 10 replacement connectors I purchased for my model 24 with serial# enclosed on the order form from my dealer did not all "break or wear out"?
The 3.5lb connector with the green NY-1 trigger spring and a lightining strike titanium striker is my preferred trigger package.
Very crisp @ 4.0 lbs, smooth, and accurate, I really prefer the heavier trigger spring as I like to ride the trigger into reset as the slide cycles.
 

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Had Teddy Jacobson do the 34 I use for IDPA SSP. Added only a Wolff 4 lb. striker spring. Don't like the mushy feel of the OEM 3.5 connector so use OEM 5 lb. one. No Ti parts. Can keep splits to .10 sec. or a little under which is faster than the Brain can follow. The 21 I use in CDP {for fun} has JP Enterprises Trigger Job on it with no 4 lb. Wolff spring {tried it but too light for own tastes}. Of the two this is the one I pefer for CCW {21 is most often carried Glock for CCW}. It does have a distinct SA feel {given it's a Glock!} that find I really like. Between the two if done over again would probably stick with the JP trigger.
 

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I am using the same combination as David (3.5# & NY1) on my G20/9 and I really like it a lot. It is the first time I have had a Glock trigger setup like this. It is the best trigger (for me) of any of the Glocks I have tried thus far. I wanted crisp, more than light and this setup does the trick. If I wanted sweetness and light, I shoot my 1911s. :cool:

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Yep, the 3.5 connector and the NY1 spring have definitely given me a far crisper trigger. I liiiiiiiiiike it. :smile: Haven't replaced the striker yet. I don't know that I will until I've shot this combination for a while.

Thanks for the advice gentlemen. I truly appreciate your help.
 

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I've been farting around with the trigger on my M20. I've settled on the 3.5 connector and Wolffe's reduced power striker spring.

A word of advice, if you go with the reduced power striker spring the striker will hit with less force. If you reload, this means you should use Federal primers, they are argueably more sensitive than Winchester or CCI.
If you carry with a reduced striker spring, make sure you run 100 or so rds through your gun to check for light primer strikes.

Some also use a Titanium striker with the lighter striker spring because the lighter striker gets up to speed faster than the stock steel striker. Lightning Strike also makes a lightweight steel striker, it's lighter than stock but not as light as the Ti model, it's also more durable than Ti.

Dang all that take-up! No matter how light you make the break-point, there's still all that trigger travel.
Unless you get an expensive custom trigger job, I know one of the ones mentioned above is in excess of $150 bucks!

To think all we need is a reliable mechanical stop to limit over-travel.
 

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I sent my G17 and my G35 to JP Enterprises for trigger work.

I AM VERY HAPPY with them.

The G17 is almost like a different gun. (with the 3.5 connector)

JP suggest using Federal primers. I recently tested the gun with various factory ammo. I shot 2-4 boxes EACH of PMC, Blazer, Speer Lawman, Wolf and American Ammo. All 115gr. FMJ.

The only malfunction that I had was magazine related. (I have a ten+ year old mag with a +2 base pad. The spring needs replaced. It won't hold the slide open when the mag is empty. And...I had it loaded 19+1.)

I have no problem giving JP my seal of approval.
http://www.jpar15.com
 

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Kyle, Have had both a G21 & G20 done by John G. of JP Ent. Also am very pleased with his trigger job to say the least. Not to mention it's only a measly $65 using the std. conn. Mine use the std. 5 lb. OEM conn. Tried using a Wolff 4 lb. striker spring and felt it was to light! {for me}. Want to keep the pistols more like Street/CCW anyway. FWIW, Am using the 4 lb. striker spring in the 34 {w/ 5 lb. conn.} use ONLY for IDPA, etc. The 34 has failed to re-set a couple of times in 3K of reloads & cheap commercial reloads. Have let the 34 go 500-700 rounds before this happend. The 20 & 21 have never so much as bobbled. Really like his "almost a SA" trigger pull. Combined with his over-travel stop it makes for an excellent & predictable trigger in my experience. With the OEM striker spring & 5 lb. conn. feel comfortable using this setup for CCW.

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I make no claims to being the worlds greatest pistol shooter, but have been an active pistol competitor in various events for the last 47 years. I am currently active in IDPA, PPC and IHMSA.

I purchased my first Glock (M-23) about 4 years ago for CCDW when it was approved here in Kentucky.

My personal opnions about triggers is if you want a target gun ( I have a Clark Long Heavy Slide and an accurized Colt NM)get yoursel a 1911 and have it accurized by some one like Les Bauer or Clark Custom guns. (Both of mine were done by Jim Clark himself before we lost this great shooter and person)You will have the best of all worlds for target shooting.

If you want a firearm for personal protection, particulary for concealed carry, get yourself a Glock of some kind, go to a training camp such as Rangemaster in Memphis, OPS Southeast and learn to use the Glock System. Don't mess with anything on the Glock.... That way you are much less likely to wind up in a libility suit for an accidental discharge, or injureing yourself because of a tricked up trigger.


If your primary interest is target shooting and you don't intend to carry a firearm concealed, GET YOURSELF A 1911.... either Colt, Kimber, or one of the custom guns I mentioned. If you get a Springfield, be prepared to have it accurized. Some of them come out great, but they have more than their share of lemonds.

What ever you decide, get lots of ammo, get involved in a shooting activity, join a gun club, and "JOIN THE NRA."

Good Luck
 

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Totally, respectfully, absolutely disagree! :wink:

Most stock 1911s DO NOT have the best of triggers, they have to be customized. I went from my 1911 to glock in IPSC because of Glocks lower bore axis and quicker follow up shots. There are, as has been provided, many, many ways to customize a Glock trigger.

Jeez, the 1911 wasn't left alone when it comes to modifications, why should the Glock?

As far as this nonsense about the legal ramifications of modifying a firearm's trigger, we've been heaing this for years. Mostly comming from Massid Adoobie and the everlasting chronicles of his courtroom prowse. BS, can someone reference ONE instance in the United States of America where a law abiding citizen was hung for making his trigger lighter, crisper, cleaner?

I'm not hashing on you TwoGlock, just debating bro.
 

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Pistolero,

Does your 34 have an over-travel stop similar to the JP job? JP's website says if you get a failure to reset then you should adjust the screw a little to allow a bit more overtravel.

I test mine while doing dry-fire practice. With a safe gun, I squeeze the trigger. I keep it held all the way back after the break. I then rack the slide with the other hand while still holing the trigger back. Then I let up on the trigger until it resets.

Don't know if that applies or helps.
 

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Kyle, No, the 34 doesn't have an overtravel stop but does have the Wolff 4 lb. striker spring. May be from NOT using Fed. primers in the last ca. 2K rounds.......were Rem's.
 

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I rework Glock handguns for Police nationwide. They are a superb handgun. I only do my trigger work one way, that is the best I know how. I do not offer different packages..... at different prices. I do not use 3.5 lb connectors because of the mushy feel. I will not use titanium parts of any kind. I can get rid of the spongy effect in the take up so you can feel it engage and when you apply the proper poundage it will break like glass. I polish the feed ramp and chamber like a mirror, I recut the crown 45 degrees which protects it from physical damage and I improve the accuracy. I carry a Glock model 27 with the new york trigger spring and a wolff guide rod. Any questions I can help you with email me = [email protected]

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