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I love the Walther PP.

I can take the PPK or the PPKs and take them, or leave them. Mostly, I'd just as soon leave them.

If I had to keep them for my own collection, I'd rather have One Walther PP than a Half-Dozen Walther PPKs.....

Why Doesn't Smith make Walther PP Pistols?

And why no .32's or .22's? What's up with that?

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To be honest I think S&W wanted to make the PPK to tap into the self-defense market, as the Walther was very popular indeed for that use. Kinda doubt they care about the nostalgia/collector demographic all that much.
 

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Well, nostalgia and collecting is one thing--a good thing--but I like the PP for all-around use.

I prefer the .32 to the .380 for defense--because I believe it has more penetration, and neither round is much more than a Long-Range Ice-Pick.....

And the .32 does carry one more round.

I've never got to try a .22 Walther PP. I've heard that they can tend to jam a bit--something about the .22 LR having marginal power to operate the Walther Action.

This may or may not be true--and even if true, perhaps there are remedial actions that could be taken.....

But for a Low-Bulk Training/Plinking/Fun-Gun/Occasional Pot Shooting Gun an occasional jam might not be such a Grievous Fault.

O, I know--I threw you off track when I used the Word "Collection".

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Walther never made a PP model in America because it was primarily intended to be a holster pistol.
Here, the popular Walther's were the concealable PPK and PPK/s.
There were too many other more powerful holster guns available.
It's very unlikely S&W will make a PP simply because sales would be very low.

The .22LR Walther PP, PPK, and PPK/s are actually very reliable little guns as long as you test fire enough to find a specific brand and type of ammo that specific gun "likes".
The .22LR slide is lightened enough that standard power .22LR ammo will operate it with no trouble.

They're also usually very accurate and sometimes exceedingly so.
When Manurhin was importing the PPK/s back in the 1980's I bought a .22 version.
I won a number of bets shooting at shotgun shell cases at the 50 foot range against larger .22's with target sights.
 

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I think the focus here is all wrong....it has nothing to do with what S&W wants...but it may have *everything* to do with what Walther ( or parent compant UMAREX) wants !!! ......

What do you mean "why does S&W hate the Walther?"....and why the many comments as to S&W calling the shots? S&W is the licensee to produce the Walther. It seems reasonable to expect that S&W was approached by Walther/Umarex to produce the guns...and was told *which* ones....and *which* calibers....they can make.

Wouldn't that make sense?....

BTW....the "assumption" ( quote.. " I heard" ) about 22LR's not being reliable is ridiculous. The 22 has caliber-specfic springs and the feed ramp design, the fixed-barrel design, the lightened-slide, etc... and other aspects of the pistol design show this to be a most reliable gun. I can say this because I have one and shoot one....and didn't just "hear" this.
 

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I said "I Heard".

If you read the next line, "I don't know this for a fact."

Yet the comment seemed to have irritated you.

Sorry, but again, I don't comprehend the snippiness.

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If you only want the pistol as a carry gun, you could pick up one of the FEG AP7 ( Walther PP copies) from J&G Sales. I have one ( as well as 2 SMC-22's, 2 PA-63's, .380 & 9x18, smc-380 and PMK-380) . They are all in the $200-$300 range and are solid guns, good shooters. J&G sales has some good condition 32 ACP models in stock. IF I were going to carry this pistol, I'd stagger load the magazine with Buffalo Bore FNHC and Fiocchi APHP hollow points. That gives a lot of penetration and high energy hollow points in one fast burst. Then I'd skeedaddle ! :)

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Brent: Welcome to the forum. I appreciate you adding your knowledge and opinions for all here. However, you may wish to consider starting a new thread for some of this since a few of the ones you are answering haven't seen a post in 20 months or so.
 

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IF I were going to carry this pistol, I'd stagger load the magazine with Buffalo Bore FNHC and Fiocchi APHP hollow points.

Brent
Hello. Your idea about the staggered load may give rise to a problem that is sort of unique to .32 acp semiauto pistols:

Because the .32 auto cases have a semi rim, stacking rounds of different overall length in a magazine can lead to rimlock. That is to say, the rim of a round in the magazine gets caught behind the rim of the case directly beneath it. Hence that upper round won't go forward and feed into the chamber.

Yes, I've tried this to see what would happen and my test confirmed that rimlock CAN occur.
 
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